Quote from: nutildah on September 28, 2019, 06:11:14 AM

Here's a few "concrete red flags" for you that can be found just in your signature:

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CONNECT FOR FREE OUR BOT TO YOUR BITMEX ACCOUNT VIA API KEY

It might be free to connect but you are also charging people a $10 fee and 30% of all profits. If they make net losses for the month, they still owe you $10, and you lose nothing.

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SAFE AND SLOW PASSIVE INCOME!

You have no guarantee that its "safe" other than your word. "Passive income" is also a term meant to attract a certain audience, mainly those who attempt to profit off Ponzis and MLM schemes.

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ROI: +495%🔥

This is based on nothing other than your word, and again you are just throwing out a big number in hopes of attracting a special kind of moron. Its a tactic we've seen employed by scammers hundreds of times. Just because you present "backtest data" of something, it does not mean that data was not altered to make things appear in your favor. You have a strong penchant for doing this as has already been demonstrated by you saying you've made 100% winning trades when the very data you've provided says otherwise. It might just be a little lie but it goes to show that you are willing to lie to promote your project.

We don't even need to delve into your loan request to present enough evidence to warrant a type 1 flag.

Nobody's saying its impossible to profit with a trading bot. What we are saying is the way you are going about promoting it is incredibly shady and you use several sales tactics that overlap with those used by scammers.

Nobody needs an intricate knowledge of your business model or the trading process to recognize your behavioral pattern and understand how the crowd that you are appealing to here is the same as that of Ponzi and MLM scammers. You throw out big numbers while saying your service is "safe, free and easy", which is all bullshit backed by nothing other than your word and a handful of verifiable trades. That's what warrants suspicion about your project.

Like I tried to say earlier before TS derailed the conversation, come back when you have several months of verifiable trade history under your belt and then we'll talk again.

So those are concrete evidence of us being scammers? Are you serious ? Grin

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CONNECT FOR FREE OUR BOT TO YOUR BITMEX ACCOUNT VIA API KEY

It might be free to connect but you are also charging people a $10 fee and 30% of all profits. If they make net losses for the month, they still owe you $10, and you lose nothing.

They owe to the vps provider 10$, not to me. They also can chose to run away with profits after the first month without paying the commission. At the end of the day, we provided the service, delivered the profit, earned nothing. Did we offer the service for free or not?

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SAFE AND SLOW PASSIVE INCOME!

You have no guarantee that its "safe" other than your word. "Passive income" is also a term meant to attract a certain audience, mainly those who attempt to profit off Ponzis and MLM schemes.

what guarantees you want in trading other than a long term backtested strategy with safe money management? 500% in 20 months is safe and slow. you may not understand why backtest are very important, but win after win, more concrete and bulletproof guarantees add to the stack.

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ROI: +495%🔥

This is based on nothing other than your word, and again you are just throwing out a big number in hopes of attracting a special kind of moron. Its a tactic we've seen employed by scammers hundreds of times. Just because you present "backtest data" of something, it does not mean that data was not altered to make things appear in your favor. You have a strong penchant for doing this as has already been demonstrated by you saying you've made 100% winning trades when the very data you've provided says otherwise. It might just be a little lie but it goes to show that you are willing to lie to promote your project.

I'm not throwing big numbers ( 500% in 20 months is not even that big).

You don't understand why backtest matters because your jobs is not related to algorithmic trading.

Can you force yourself to understand that since we EARN ONLY ON PROFITS COMMISSION we have absolutely no interest in faking data and providing a fraud product ?

We can keep fighting about the 100% win rate definition as much you want. that doesn't change the fact that is 100%. I will copy my previous replies for who didn't catch it:

Note that the negative PNLs of 0.0001 mBTC ( 0.001$ loss) are created by instant 1 contracts trades necessary to escape a bug in the bitmex websocket's position endpoint. After several days without trades, the position value restores and the endpoint returns error when trying to access it. This causes the bots to crash. What's the solution until bitmex fixes the problem? Make instant 1 contract trades to unlock the endpoint. That 0.001$ loss is the fee paid as taker(necessary to close the "unlock trade" in less than 1 second) and the mathematical loss that come from the 0.5$ of spread between the ask and the bid.

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Nobody's saying its impossible to profit with a trading bot.

UHM, SORRY? I had pages of fights about this. Here's a little extra:

Quote from: mindrust on September 20, 2019, 07:23:17 PM

Successful traders don't use bots. The best way to become a successful trader is, doing less trades.

The less you trade, the more successful you become.

That's why, the best traders are who do zero trades, hodlers.

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Nobody needs an intricate knowledge of your business model or the trading process to recognize your behavioral pattern

You need BASIC knowledge to at least understand what the fuck we are talking about. Your first feedback was:

If you had at least read our thread, you would have known that no btc is ever sent to us, instead they are manged on bitmex via public api key.

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We don't even need to delve into your loan request to present enough evidence to warrant a type 1 flag.

With what? Also is that the reason you changed your negative feedback from the one posted above to a new one referring exclusively at the partnership with the lenders?

Quote from: TECSHARE on September 28, 2019, 06:24:25 AM

Quote from: nutildah on September 28, 2019, 06:11:14 AM

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Prove you are innocent or we will assume your guilt and penalize you based on assumptions that could just as easily be false as true.

I wish was that easy, no matter how many times and in how many different ways i prove we are legit.... they will never accept that they were wrong in the first place.

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Like I tried to say earlier before TS derailed the conversation, come back when you have several months of verifiable trade history under your belt and then we'll talk again.

Imagine someone, unfortunately, kills suchmoon. Police come and take you from your home, exposing you at family, co-workers, and media as the bloody spineless murderer.

Even if you have a bulletproof alibi and there are no evidence that you have beaten suchmoon to death, the jury sends you to prison with a sentence:

"Meanwhile go to prison, if we catch the real murderer we will get you out of there don't worry."

This is what all the CryptoSparks' hunt looks like.