Quote from: Wa Da Fak on September 30, 2019, 12:25:21 PM

Quote from: squatz1 on September 30, 2019, 03:23:09 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on September 30, 2019, 02:25:05 AM

Glad to see you are back and active here again. Regarding your topic, the Western world is a high trust level society. What you are describing is a low trust level society. This is largely a cultural issue, so the solutions are more systemic and institutional than individual fixes. In my opinion a lot of it has to do with corruption in government and law enforcement. If the law doesn't apply to those in power, people have no respect for the rule of law any longer because it is only imposed on them and not used to protect them. It is like playing a game where everyone is cheating. The honest player always loses and that mentality is difficult to reverse. Of course there are ways such as personally imposing harsh penalties to send a message, but most people don't have the stomach for that.

This conundrum is one of the main reasons I am very much in support of gun ownership in the US, because even in low trust areas such as cities, crooks know they are rolling the dice and it is only a matter of time before they catch a bullet. This is a very effective deterrent that people often completely ignore when advocating for gun bans/restrictions. People don't appreciate how nice it is to live in a high trust society and how easily that can break down when it is not maintained. Even harder is rebuilding a high trust society from a low trust one once it is lost.

I'd have to agree with all of this, mostly the first portion at least.

In America we do live in a VERY high trust society. People are more or less trusted to be doing the right things at most times. Now if that is due to people just being trusting in the states, or if they're just scared of the embarassement and consequences, that's another thing.

But yeah -- other cultures accept this a little differently. Maybe this could be a society/country/culture that feels as if they're owed what they're stealing, or that they deserve it or something along those lines.

Well first they have a reason why they steal if its for good use well it can be okay but if its for bad intention like greed in money but if you do it for your family or any valid reasons then it is okay.

There are many beliefs that every country and people have if they believe that it's okay well I respect it but they need to face and know that every country have a Law in stealing and they have to face the consequence if they got caught.

No. This is exactly what we're talking about here.

There is never a good reason to steal from another person -- it doesn't matter if the rich or the poor or doing it it doesn't make it okay or better in anyway. If we are to say that some people get a [pass for stealing while others do not, we've allowed for this sort of idea to spread.