Quote from: FredericBastiat on September 14, 2011, 10:00:10 PM

Quote from: Hawker on September 14, 2011, 09:31:24 PM

You are funny. You have your little theory based on excluding reality and within the reality free bubble your "logic is sound."

In reality, property is a legal concept. It comes from the society that you are in. It doesn't exist in a vacuum. What is the point is talking about some other unreal version of property that only exists in your head?

And you're a cutie. Cooool duuude, whatever!!

Your logic is more fallible than mine. I accept the fact that property and liberty are concepts invented by humans to bring order and civility to their actions. It's one of the reasons I believe the way I do. I believe in basic principles of law, not the arbitrariness of their meaning and application by society as a whole.

By being arbitrary you create the possibility where the division in classes of individuals, special privilege, monopoly and a whole host of manipulatory behaviour springs forth from "special circumstances". The second your law violates its original purpose and intent, it no longer is law but the violation of law.

The purpose and mission of law is to prevent injustice, not cause it.

If you accept "the fact that property and liberty are concepts invented by humans to bring order and civility to their actions", than you must accept that society has to defend the property and liberty of its citizens. Even if you limit the defence to mental homes for the violently mentally ill and jails for violent robbers. That defence must be paid for - its called tax.

I'm glad you've compromised with reality at last.