Quote from: suchmoon on October 14, 2019, 06:41:43 PM

I've read the discussion. You're exaggerating. There is a lively discussion going on about be.open's value to the forum and forgiveness, not unlike theymos suggested we should be doing for lesser transgressions. It's starting to look like every time a discussion doesn't go your way you run to the English boards looking for non-Russian speaking DTs to inflame the conflict. There is a precedent for a "friends and family" lenience in similar cases so it's far from a "Ru local" conspiracy as you'd like us to believe.

The fact that I go to Meta in controversial situations is quite logical. There are many more honest people here and they act more quickly, plus scamers and their defenders are less arrogant than in the local.

Now I will show you an example that does not apply to high-ranking scamers: I found a ponzi scheme and several related projects. I dont need any merits or any confession, I just need the scamers to be punished. Therefore, I published this information in two (!!!) sections devoted to scams in the Ru local.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4687372.msg51946673#msg51946673
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51946711#msg51946711

Have any actions been taken? Have scammers been tagged? No.
But I got advice to publish this in "Scam Accusations". Ok, i did it: TIRUS - Ponzi scheme + few related scam projects
The scamer was instantly tagged. And even a flag was created so that the fraudster could not deceive anyone.

I returned to the local and said that I had done what I was advised. And...? Maybe you will show me at least one tag from the DT members from the Ru local? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1182356

But this is the simplest case. I believe that such things should be easily solved inside the local, but as you can see they are not solved.

Now another simple example: Several bounty cheaters with high ranks

Quote from: KTChampions on October 09, 2019, 10:42:17 AM

CryptInvest Legendary
Lernerz Sr. member
andolini82 Hero member
adolf84 Sr. member
God.Of.Gambler Full member
~

Please show me the work of DT members from Ru local in this case.

Quote from: chimk on October 14, 2019, 09:08:23 PM

KTChampions often exaggerate. Failure to change the trust for an attempt to create a "bumping service", he called the protection of a scammer.

Yes, you defended the scammer. Here are the details, it is not clear why you are avoiding them. Better repent once and admit the mistake.

Quote from: chimk on October 14, 2019, 09:08:23 PM

He exaggerates calling Craig Wright the creator of Bitcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148832.msg51273720#msg51273720

Old lie.

Quote from: chimk on October 14, 2019, 09:08:23 PM

Refusal to admit evidence, the movement of merit, calls the protection of a fraudster. He also exaggerated by accusing me of having an alternate account and corruption.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156668.msg51544427#msg51544427

I have the right to my opinion, everyone can read this topic and see who and how honestly behaves.

Quote from: chimk on October 14, 2019, 09:08:23 PM

In the Russian section there is a really active discussion, as part of the discussion we talked about honesty. I said that if an accusation is made, it will be good if people admit their guilt and we will avoid drama. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg52738030#msg52738030

At the same time, you didnt make your own opinion about the violators (under the pretext that you do not understand the bounty) but started looking for an excuse to spoil my reputation / ban me. Some kind of super illogical behavior.

Quote from: chimk on October 14, 2019, 09:08:23 PM

Later, I asked KTChampions to honestly answer two questions.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg52744046#msg52744046

I recently looked through the account sales thread and found a quote for a nonexistent message, here it is -

Quote from: Bitonly88 on January 22, 2018, 11:25:18 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on January 22, 2018, 07:58:00 AM

Quote from: Bitonly88 on January 15, 2018, 07:29:34 AM

Пoкyпaю aккayнты Full Member. Пpeдлoжeния пишитe в личкy

A чeгo caм диaпaзoн нe oзвyчишь цeн?

Taк pынoк мeняeтcя. Aктyaльныe цeны вceгдa нa мoмeнт пoкyпки

http://archive.md/lHD7w

Bitonly88 wants to buy Full Member accounts, a quoted message from KTChampions, in quote, please state the price range.

The next lie but of course you will refer to your poor English Wink

Correct translation: Why you yourself do not voice the price range?
I consider this behavior fraudulent (regardless of what is for sale) and I have blamed many sellers of various goods for this.

Quote from: chimk on October 14, 2019, 09:08:23 PM

There is a quote, but no message. I asked KTChampions what does this mean? Look what he said to me,
and whose name he inserted instead of his own by editing the message.

Either Bitonly88 committed a forgery, compromising KTChampions, or KTChampions, embarrassed to tell the truth, makes a false accusation of forgery. It doesnt matter that Bitonly88, an account seller, should be interested in the truth. Later, suchmoon clarified, does KTChampions really deny his participation in the discussion of account purchases? Then KTChampions wrote that he did not remember, and maybe it was his way to show fraud in the discussion. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg52750455#msg52750455
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg52751851#msg52751851

Why don't you give a translation of my answer? Trying to mislead those who do not know Russian? Ok, I will do it for you:

Quote from: KTChampions on October 14, 2019, 05:17:49 AM

I cant confirm or refute this - I have> 1700 messages and many deleted ones, I cant remember everything. Bitonly88 is a professional seller of accounts, and as you can see by his trust at that time in the local area, nobody painted such scamers at all, and I showed the fraudulent nature of their activities in discussions. To advertise the purchase of something without a clear price in my opinion is also the essence of fraud, especially if the price is clearly indicated in the sale announcement. Perhaps my messages were deleted on the complaint of the seller/buyer (since the Flea market section is not a discussion section) and this quote is part of such a discussion, perhaps by me (was deleted) because of corrupted DTs who are trying to find at me at least something (well, you know just read the section).

Quote from: chimk on October 14, 2019, 09:08:23 PM

But initially, he said Ask a question at the address, namely Bitonly88.
You never know what he could write there, for example and instead of KTChampions, Satoshi Nakamoto inserted. I have a request, if someone can clarify the light on this situation and get a message from the archive, please help.I want to understand whether Bitonly88 made a forgery or KTChampions once again exaggerated.

sorry for the bad english.

Above in the quote, I explained what and why could happen. I am not surprised that you did not show this my answer here.

And now about you: I answered your two questions, and you promised to answer my two in response. But somehow you dodge it.
May be you want to do it here? So my questions:

Quote from: KTChampions on October 13, 2019, 01:17:15 PM

1.) How is it that when I find a scamer/cheater you dont have time/skills to tag him/look for additional proofs against him (or at least check existing ones), but there is time to rummage through my posts looking for something to complain about?

Let me remind you that this is how you behaved when I caught the serial scamer Smart man. You took the time to defend him, while not checking the info which was a lot about him, in addition, you constantly attacked me and even made a deliberately false report on plagiarism in the hope of getting rid of me.
And now the situation is repeating itself.

2.) Suppose your vile goal is achieved - you find something up on me. Then what? Does this somehow prevent me from continuing to publish information on scamers or being a real crypto enthusiast and discussing a crypto objectively, and not from the point of view of fiat prostitutes who are waiting for one thing from the bitcoin - to increase price rate to merge it and get the desired fiat?