Quote from: suchmoon on October 18, 2019, 03:10:22 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 18, 2019, 02:55:16 AM

It doesn't matter if I read it from a tattoo on your mama's ass, it is a direct quote from The US Constitution. Its validity is not dependent on 3rd parties that reference it. Run along now with your hive mind buddies and work on your next attack strategy.

The quote doesn't say that impeachment is a criminal trial, you're just stretching it to that meaning because you really want it to mean that.

Andrew Johnson was impeached for - among other things - ridiculing the Congress "in a loud voice". Such a horrible crime.

"Article III § 2 (3) provides that "the trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury."

If it is not saying impeachment can be a criminal trial, why exactly does it exclude impeachment from the normal due process of criminal trials? Wouldn't that be totally pointless? I never claimed ALL impeachments were criminal trials, so your point is moot. I am not stretching anything, except for maybe your mama's booty hole.

Quote from: nutildah on October 18, 2019, 04:19:26 AM

Hello Techole,

We've already established that contrary to your beliefs, not all impeachments are based on actual crimes. Just because you quoted one line from the constitution used by one particular interpretation (out of several in the article you found by doing a Google search for "is impeachment a criminal procedure?"), it doesn't mean the constitution says impeachment hearings are the same thing as a criminal procedure. This whole debate is simply a failure to acknowledge that you made a misstatement earlier and rather than correcting it you are now doubling down and defending it to the death, which is not going well for you.

Again, criminal trials can only be decided upon by a judge and/or jury, and not the house of representatives. The WSJ article is just a well-written summary of common knowledge; well "common" except to you I suppose.

By the way, my name means "silence" in my ancestral language -- something you should probably practice more of.

Some, but not all impeachments are in fact criminal trials. You haven't established anything except for your desperation to have a "gotcha" moment regardless of the main premise of discussion. I not only didn't make a misstatement, you made a misstatement in your pathetic attempt to claim I did so. The congress is supervisory authority over the office of the president, so yes, they do in this case hold criminal impeachment trials against them in some circumstances. This is established in the constitution itself, once again...

"Article III § 2 (3) provides that "the trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury."

They are literally stating it can be a criminal proceeding, and that a trial by jury is not required in this specific instance.

So are you going to admit you are wrong Nutilduhhhh?