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Re: be.open & Sancho18 - bounty cheaters.
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be.open
on 21/10/2019, 03:22:27 UTC
The topic has to be opened again.
Really, again? Well, I will answer.

Sancho is my son’s account, now he is 17, and for him, participating in the bounty campaigns was something like a fun game ~
When you manage to interest your 15-year-old teenage son into engaging in any joint activities,~

Checking Sancho18's messages revealed that it was a lie.

be.open claims that he engaged his 15-year-old son to the crypto in a game form through participation in bounty campaigns.
Sancho18 Date Registered:   June 02, 2017, 15 years old, new to crypto.
On July 8th, he already has a diversified portfolio consisting of “bitcoin, top altcoins and exotic crypto shit”. Top altcoins are on Bittrex and he is actively trading them.
In October, he already has a full Bitcoin node on a separate laptop.
A lot of messages devoted to trading on Bittrex and it follows from them that he has been doing this for a long time.
He advises friends (apparently also schoolchildren) to think about a retirement strategy. A lot of various messages that say that an adult writes from this account. Given the fact that the vocabulary, topics and even events about which the posts are written coincide, I conclude that this is be.open.
~ I have a little bit of NEX and ARDX on my bittrex account,~
~
There are a few NEX on bittrex, ~
My son has a rich creative imagination and a close family relationship with me. Very gifted child. A little higher, YOSHIE confirmed that I was telling the truth.

Now a small visualization of the merits movement between accounts:



From be.open we "know":
1.) sne.su is his alt.
2.) Sancho18 is his son.
3.) Prod, Kutkh and Bonanzabits is a farm of his friend.

Who is more^power?
This is my ex alt account, I made it just because I can and because I feel more power (so I called him that). For a long time it is not active and for an even longer time I do not manage it. He was hacked by social hacking, around the first quarter of 2018. I did not feel affected by the loss of control over an account that I do not need, so I did nothing. I am its creator, but this is not my alt account for a long time. If this is a problem, I think I can solve it, I know who hacked me. If not a problem, I would prefer to continue to do nothing. I don’t want to testify against my friend, he is, among other things, a cool social hacker, I do not approve of some of his methods, and he is still my friend. If you think that someone has suffered from his activities, you can conduct a separate investigation on this issue. For now he is not active on the forum for about a year.

I know that from the outside it may look like selling an account, but I didn’t. At the beginning of 2018, I was already rich enough, and I just did not need it. An indirect proof of this is the very existence of some evidence against me, creating an account for sale I would take care that they were not there. I never sold accounts, this contradicts my inner beliefs.

Cheating  [Bounty]MODULE

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- Using multi-accounts, spam, bots and so on are strictly prohibited, all attempted users will be banned.

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# 25 27.07.2018 15:55:52   more^power  Full Member 0x8D176194f1a20072009ed8DD958C7301fded9c5C
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# 343 26.07.2018 13:47:21   be.open Sr. Member 0x32971bEd557C6A8dA1c5C8c4053b68ce610FDe76
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rPq9cUMrDiOIRI0pw3R1fjb8bKWymkl_rKNPJIMULyY/edit#gid=1318387486
Perhaps this episode looks a little dubious to me. But that was after I lost control of more^power account. A stylistic and semantic expertise in the history of messages in that period will easily confirm the correctness of my words. I also want to note that I did not receive a reward for this campaign and removed my signature after one week of participation, proof. Throughout this long story of accusation against me, there is not a single victim.



Cheating AdSana bounty

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Multiple accounts are not allowed and will result in banning you from our campaign.

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#20 Sancho18 0x32971bEd557C6A8dA1c5C8c4053b68ce610FDe76
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#28 More^power 0x8D176194f1a20072009ed8DD958C7301fded9c5C
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17FYhxddLNYRZaBGz_hb_52Xlvt04J6u6_dLbnKImY98/edit#gid=1050052320

Sancho18 is not my alt account, therefore, there are no violations.

In addition to all this, there is an interesting nuance - plagiarism.

Пpиcoeдиняюcь, paз вce тaк cлoжнo. Xopoшaя paбoтa, чeлoвeк вмecтo пoнимaния cвoeй вины, yпepтo дoкaзывaeт oбpaтнoe. Бpaт, cвaт... вce этo былo.
Bceгдa yвaжaлa мнeниe Coolcryptovator .
Кaк гoвopил Бeнeдикт Cпинoзa, "ccылкa нa aвтopитeт нe ecть дoвoд".
~
http://archive.md/5Lcrn
A тo, чтo пpeдлaгaeтe вы, вызoвeт гaлoпиpyющyю инфляцию, и этo нe pитopичecкий вoпpoc.

Cкaжитe этo Цyкepбepгy ))

Инфляция вызoвeт дeфицит тoвapoв - пpoизвeдyт eщe.

B нaшe вpeмя пpoизвecти тoвap - нe пpoблeмa. Пpoблeмa eгo пpoдaть.

Mы живём вo вpeмeнa кpизиca пepeпpoизвoдcтвa. Toвapы ecть, a дeнeг y людeй нeт. Taк-чтo инфляция тyт нe cтpaшнa. Hyжнo coздaть изoбилиe дeнeг.
Кaк гoвopил Бeнeдикт Cпинoзa, "ccылкa нa aвтopитeт нe ecть дoвoд".
~
http://archive.md/Zvend
I will explain an interesting nuance. The highlighted phrase can be considered an idiomatic introductory sentence. It consists of the commonly used prefix "as say" and quotation marks with quotation indicating the author, and the quote is short and easy to quote from memory. I sometimes use it in my private life, and her son has repeatedly heard from me.

If the message consisted entirely of this one phrase - this could represent some problem. But this is only the introductory part of the messages, as indicated by the tilde. The entire message is not plagiarized, even if the introductory part is formally plagiarized (without infringement of copyright).

Google search by this phrase gives out  3 results:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1955840.0 Sancho18 on btt
https://popgun.ru/viewtopic.php?t=798397&start=120 be-open on popgun
http://guns.allzip.org/topic/5/1906656.html and this message on mirror.

So:
1.) If be-open from popgun is an individual person then be.open/Sancho18 should be banned.
2.) If be-open from popgun is be.open from btt then Sancho18 should be banned.
3.) If be-open from popgun is Sancho18 from btt then be.open should be banned.
4.) If this is one person, then he must somehow prove it.

Here you crossed the point of no return, a long chain of false conclusions brought you here. It becomes crystal clear here that this is just a vulgar vendetta. Forced personal trolling for doxxing detected. Such actions are unacceptable in a forum that respects anonymity and privacy.

Update: Evidence was here and then removed to protect my anonymity and privacy. If necessary, I can provide them again.


ps If you still have any questions, I am open for a constructive dialogue.