Quote from: Spendulus on October 21, 2019, 04:47:03 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on October 21, 2019, 06:31:35 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 21, 2019, 02:30:37 AM

And it's nice to know that you agree there's nothing wrong with Trump's request.

Unlike the Dems who would impeach him for such a request.

It's not that the request was made, it's how he did it and that he tied aid to it. If he had gone through official channels and made it about corruption in general, none of this would be happening now.

Really. You know, the transcript is public, and there is nothing there to support your claim (bolded).

Someone says they'd like to buy something from you and you immediately tell them you want them to do a favor for you though. If you have a problem comprehending how that isn't a quid pro quo, then I feel sorry for you cause you must be damn easy to manipulate and take advantage of.

If Trump had just said he'd like a favor and didn't say "though", then maybe (although it's still a stretch to not see what's there unless you support dear leader in all things regardless) one could try and make the argument it wasn't.

Here's something I noted that I haven't seen anyone clue into yet. When it comes to manipulating the media, he's brilliant. One day he said the transcript was an exact word for word record of the call or something like that. Of course all the media jumped on that and pointed out it's not. And they've kept doing that since then. It wouldn't surprise me if, assuming the "real" one gets released, it turns out to be a bit different and it's different enough that it muddies the water. Course with Trump I wouldn't past him to forge some transcript but I guess we'll see what happens.