Quote from: Bittap on October 29, 2019, 01:15:51 PM

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Quote from: Digital_Seytan on October 23, 2019, 11:57:48 AM

2Gb,4Gb DAG fix, need atleast 1 GPU large enough to generate DAG.

Recently realized in my farm that my 470 4Gb rigs, which were all 6 card setups at the time, were not generating the dag any longer for ETC and then soon after ETH dag approached whatever level it was that pushed my system over the limit. After a day of wondering what to do, I realized a 470 rig I have with 1 8Gb 580 in it was working fine with the other 5 cards being 470 4Gbs. I took apart one of my 580 8Gb rigs and replaced a card on one of the 470 rigs. Mined perfectly fine. Did this to the whole farm and split the gpus essentially so every 4Gb rig has atleast 1 8Gb card in it. As for now this works no issues. I have a p104-100 rig with 1 470 4Gb in it and same thing, generated dag and mines.

I tested this on 2Gb R7 200 gpus and works perfectly fine. Card generates the dag as long as the system has one available card that is able to fit the dag on it. This is identical to how the 470 rigs are operating.

The same goes for 470 4Gbs with rx 5700s and the same with the R7 200s with the rx 5700s.

It sounds like 4GB isn't enough for the DAG since the current DAG is 3.27GB for ETH or 3.34GB for ETC.
RedPandaMining recently posted a video on his Youtube Channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRIX5mpVntk

It would be awesome if it worked on 3gb Nvidia cards, but from what I have seen its only a fix for AMD cards with 4gb and below running on windows. I setup a windows box with a GTX 1070 and a couple gtx 3gb 1060s with no luck, then I tried a mixed mode setup with an 8gb AMD card as the main GPU with no luck as well. I figured it would not work with Nvidia cards below 3 gb, but I wanted to try it out for kicks. If anyone else tried and had luck let me know.

your discussion is seriously weird. it is impossible to load >3gb array into <3 GPU memory whatever tricks you may perform.

DAG - directed acyclic graph

"The Ethash algorithm expects the DAG as a two-dimensional array of uint32s (4-byte unsigned ints), with dimension (n × 16) where n is a large number. (n starts at 16777186 and grows from there.) Following the magic number, the rows of the DAG should be written sequentially into the file, with no delimiter between rows and each unint32 encoded in little-endian format."

"...calculating the PoW (Proof of Work) requires subsets of a fixed resource dependent on the nonce and block header. This resource (a few gigabyte size data) is called a DAG. The DAG is totally different every 30000 blocks (a 100 hour window, called an epoch) and takes a while to generate."

If you check out the comment I was responding to it mentioned that they are able to get 2 gb AMD cards to work provided they have one card in the mining rig with 8gb for the dag to populate on. I took them for their word and tried it with Nvidia but apparently it only works with AMD cards. I suppose I could find a 2gb AMD card and mix it with a 8gb card and see if what they say is true, but I do not really see what they would have to gain from making something like that up.

cannot tell you anything about "what they would have to gain" but that's really not that critical. it all sounds like confusing horseshit starting from "realization" of 4gb gpus "not generating the dag any longer"

@Bittap So you are saying that it's you who started this crazy claim... cool. Care to elaborate on the details? maybe screenshoots of 2gb gpu hashing eth? lol.

Yea it was me. I'm sorry about how unorganized or legitimate it may seem. Its mostly a realization after Claymore 14.7 hit 299 and my 4gb Polaris cards started having dag issues. I tried each of my 4gb rigs with a 580 8gb thrown in and it started working. Back in April I built a desktop build with a r7 200 2gb and a 570 8gb for my self. It no longer exists because I dismantled it after 2 months. Now I cant get the r7 200 to work the way it did again. I'm still troubleshooting on my free time see if I can replicate the results. I want to show it off. I feel stupid saying it worked and no proof. But the build was a Msi z270a with a Kaby Celeron and 8gb of ram. Windows was installed in Legacy mode. I found that be crucial. UEFI mode is better for newer boards, pcie accessories, and mining but I I was forced to use legacy because the 570s did not like working together with the r7 200 in UEFI. It worked like a charm in Legacy. The r7 took about 50 seconds to load the dag and it gave a PITIFUL 1.2mhs. But it worked. As much hate as I'm getting over this I'm trying to replicate the results with my little free time. When I do I will be posting on Reddit and here with screen shots. Hope this helps clear a little confusion. Cheers.

Look... you are obviously wrong in your claim that one can mine eth and etc with less than 4gb gpus as the dag wont fit. also there is no problem with 4 gb gpus. not with loading nor dag generation. I have 370 here but I wont bother "testing" as its pointless, I know it wont work. You can even disregard everything and just think of the alternative implications of the stupidity of everyone else involved and you'll doubt yourself.
And in regard to the specifics of miner implementations (and lack of support for high epoh dags) maybe it has to do with eth promise to switch to pos ages ago and some hardcoded values or whatever. I have no idea. Its totally different story anyways.

EDIT: and because I'm lazy I still have PhoenixMiner 4.2c running on most of my 4GB polaris rigs, although I'm getting close to the edge of my disk space as they want over 35GB shared memory for 12 GPUs... (asrock h110 pro btc, 12gpus, win10 anniversary, 64gb ssd, celeron, 8gb ram)