Quote from: kickback on November 01, 2019, 09:39:13 PM

Excuse me sir but IXCOIN,i0coin and Devcoin are all on freiexchange and there is zero liquidity on any of them.You cannot even sell DVC for 1 satoshi because there is no buy wall and a stack of DVC on sell side at 1 sat.IXCOIN has NO buyers and I0coin has no buyers.I could place 10k IXC and i0c for sale right now and nobody will buy and I cannot even get 1 sat for DVC so my point is why would anyone bother with these coins because in the end NOBODY is "here for the tech" and only money talks.

Oh cool I did not know I0Coin was still on any exchanges, I could not find it on CoinMarketCap to find out.

IXCoin has buy offers every satoshi of price all the way up on Yobit, though I admit there is probably good reason to be suspicious of Yobit since for literally years now I have been periodically reminding them in support tickets that the transaction they claimed to have sent my 140,000 or so AXIOM coins in does not exist on the AXIOM blockchain nor on the forked AXIOM blockchain that I split off as AXON when the fork was so bad it did not seem to be resolvable. They do not even respond to the support tickets. So I can understand why few people seem willing to risk trying them.

I do not know about Freiexchange, is that one that was created for Freicoin way back when or some new possibly fly-by-night exchange?

I am very reluctant to start committing resources to yet another new unknown exchange when so many have run off with our money already.

It kind of makes sense that you cannot sell DeVCoin for a whole satoshi given that it had been down to about a third of a satoshi on the previous exchange it had been on, where one of its pairs was LiTeCoin.

Mind you that too was a new out of the blue fly by night "exchange" that basically ran off with all our money so it is not really surprising that no one had been willing to build a strong buy-side there.

The only reason I am bothering to work on the buy sides of FED, GPL2 etc (the sci-fi themed coins) on LiveCoin.net, which for all I know is yet another exchange just biding its time waiting for the best moment to claim to have been hacked or to simply fly by night, is I have to be on there anyway right now to sell DMD thus have been doing DMD market-making on there, so I have been sidetracking little bits of bitcoin here and there from my DMD work to start building up Sci-Fi themed coins. Maybe we can get LiveCoin to create a DMD/DVC pair or something?

However, a whole lot of these coins can be traded on HORIZON against HZ (for which reason it would be handy to get HZ back onto Poloniex or something) and they all can be traded directly against each other on STELLAR.

The more of them we can get listed on decent exchanges the better though, since if only very few of them are listed, as has been the case for years now, whichever of them IS listed tends to end up being the dumping route for all of them, so all the dumping anyone wants to do of any of them all ends up routed through whichever one of them they can find a route out to fiat through. In much the same way that having so many coins trade against bitcoin makes bitcoin bear the brunt of all the dumping anyone wants to do of an of the many many coins that are paired against bitcoin.

I am really sick of exchanges running off with all the bitcoins every time I build up a strong buy-side for a coin against bitcoin, so I am trying to focus my market-making efforts on the HORIZON and STELLAR platforms where I can feel more confident that my HZ and XLM coins, as well as all my other coins, are more secure than on some random new out of the blue previously unheard-of exchange.

Since the buy side of IXCoin on Yobit still goes all the way up to 222 satoshis, and I have a buy offer of 100 coins each satoshi all the way up, you should be able to sell almost 22200 IXCoins there. Actually I tihnk more, as likely my offers are for more than 100 coins toward the bottom of the price-range. I say almost though be cause some of the 100 buy offer I have at 222 satoshis has already been taken. As more of my sell offers are taken I will continue strengthening the buy-side, and if they re-instate I0Coin I will send some I0Coin back there again (was it there before?) likewise if they list DeVCoin, being as how I am already on that exchange.

Starting afresh on some new exchange that someone possibly created just to steal coins and/or identities/passwords seems less and less of a good idea with each one that rips us off.

You should try to bear in mind that money is basically an I.O.U, if you sell some you should be prepared to buy it back; don't dump it like some kind of fly by night ripoff artist, be a responsible coin-shop willing to buy back the coins you sell, making your money from "a small re-stocking fee on returned coins" or the gap between the sell price and buy price.

-MarkM-