Quote from: Cappex on November 08, 2019, 08:13:21 AM

Quote from: whotheff on November 07, 2019, 02:46:25 PM

Quote from: Korifeetxs on November 06, 2019, 08:30:57 PM

The charging companies probably don't like the idea that the transactions are anonimous, since they have to report to a tax agency/government.

I am interested to know what idea's the uPlexa team themselves have about the implementation of UPX. And I don't mean the toaster, consoles, phone and stuff. I think their position on those is already quite clear, but I mean implementation in the bigger picture, like the aforementioned charging stations, green energy projects etc. With Steadfast Storm approaching they have other things on their mind right now, but some vision (apart from ecommerce) regarding this must have been looked at the last year.. I thought something was mentioned in the white paper as an exemple. But the anonimity of the whole UPX story makes it -in my opinion- very hard to get partnerships with serious bussinesses.

I agree with you that to partner a serious business is not possible coupled with too much anonymity.
Probably if there was a way to make certain transactions anonymous, and some public, it would work.

@Cappex:

Amazon is wealthy enough to build their own coin. They don't need UPX. UPX is needed at some
small or medium size business with a lot of small transactions which still cost a lot of money to execute.
Various online services: CDN, dVPN (which is actually planned in future for uPlexa) online streaming,
maybe even some online game.

@Korifeetxs

Wise words from QuantumLeaper (regarding the "internal" eco system building). Huge corps can start
a blockchain from scratch any time. Why would they want to invest in some crypto currency?

So far mentioned: mining on IoT: phones, game consoles, old PCs, tablets, USB miner devices

Building car charging stations, which work on UPX, dVPN, PlexaNet, UNApps (some require loss of anonymity)

What other use cases do you guys see for UPX (avoid value storing, press on USE as a daily use)?

What other use cases you guys can think of?

yes, a lot of transactions will be the way... at your kinds of job mentioned should be the right place where focuses the workforce of the team. i am only a passionate and i don't know very well this... my idea or vision is to reach the masses, but at today also btc isn't used for all day shopping and it have 10 years... this world is still to young, we are building the tomorrow.

I remember hearing once that BTC was a "draft", more like some kind of "experiment", to throw the basis of what blockchain & crypto could be. In that case it was probably not supposed to be used all over the world for many different purposes.

Back to UPX... @whotheff you mention game consoles / usb / divers IoT mining devices, how are they "use cases"? Mining a cryptocurrency is what makes its network alive and what allows transactions to happen, but I wouldn't consider it a use case, even if you could mine using many different devices, in an innovative way as uPlexa can do...

@Dimitryi as mentioned, uPlexa HAS a value, already. It is currently pretty low, which means, as Cappex mentioned, if you want to buy a $1000 iPhone (why would anyone want to do that anyway?.. but it's a whole other topic) you need to spend a bit more than 6M UPX. That does sound "huge", but let's not forget that we are used to fiat-thinking since our birth. it's just a number, in itself it means nothing, it's just linked to the "converted value" you can convert it to (aka the useless sect-like overpriced iPhone example).

@whotheff I don't really agree with you concerning the "big businesses don't need existing coins, they can build their own"... if/when uPlexa reaches a marketcap/converted fiat price that means something for those "big businesses", they'll be more than happy to add UPX payment as an option, without even being requested by the Team. I'm not sure the central banks had to pay some kind of "fee" to ask them to add dolalr, euro and so on.... and I'm not sure VISA & MASTERCARD had to pay them a fee to allow consumers to use their cards for online payment. I think it's even the opposite Wink

Overall it's mostly a question of adoption... that's why I found the ETN idea not as dumb as some would claim (I mean their "fake phone miner"). Because this little app allowed them to reach more than 200k users already, people who have at least a few coins in their wallets, and who would probably be ready to use them to pay for goods or services.

All this ecosystem still has a long way to go, but I'm sure this will evolve into mass adoption (as soon as governments find an easy way to add a nice layer of taxes on this, I'm sure mass adoption will be able to begin...)

Heh, we might all be thinking likewise (mass adoption to come), or we wouldn't be interested in cryptocurrencies, right? Wink

The thing is... I think it'll probably take a LONG time still, as this market is still technically a newborn, adopters need to consider that they're still very early adopters, and they need to think long-term.

But I can definitely see uPlexa and its persistently working Team in a nice place in this future "adult" market