Quote from: BADecker on November 15, 2019, 09:56:57 PM

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This is where entropy comes in (another flaw in BB Theory thinking). There must have been a Beginning. If things had always existed as they do, entropy would have broken down the complexity long ago, so there wouldn't be life, or much of anything else that is complex.

Evolution doesn't violate entropy. Earth is not an isolated system, we get an energy input from the Sun, and radiate energy back to space.
The second law of thermodynamics doesn't mean that the entropy of every part of a system increases. If it did then water would never freeze into ice, because that involves a decrease in entropy. What it actually means is that the total entropy of the whole system has to increase. Any decrease like water in a freezer turning into ice is matched by an increase elsewhere, in this case the heat released into your kitchen by the freezer.

You make a point. But your point doesn't have anything to do with the post you quoted. Do you always simply jump into things with other things?

The point of my post that you quoted was, if our universe never had a beginning, but rather always existed, entropy would have diffused complexity into simplicity long ago. If the universe was such a different kind of thing that this didn't happen for some reason, it is way beyond our knowing.

Actually, a form of entropy is probably the thing that is making us devolve rather than evolve right now.

Cool

We don't know, our universe could experience a Big Crunch, and the whole thing will start over.

To bring 'God' into the equation raises more questions than it answers.
https://i.imgur.com/F1cUgMc.jpg

The reason we don't know is that we live by faith and belief. In other words, we are religious beings, and live religious lives.

Some of us trust God, so we know by faith. No big crunch. No big bang. Destruction of this universe soon. But loss of this universe to all of us when we die.

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Do you think faith is a reliable way to discover what is true and what is false?