Quote from: BetKing.io on November 15, 2019, 07:27:16 PM

Be waiting a long time considering you have none of what you claim. You only post it thinking it will worry me or something. It's pathetic.

Your scam list thread might have actually been a good contribution to the community and warn people of legit scams. Unfortunately I (and I doubt anyone with a brain) can take any of your allegations seriously knowing how poor a job you did on very very basic research you did on BetKing/me. I can only imagine how many wrongly accused projects are on your list because you were too stupid to look in to them properly or understand whatever they were offering.

Now that you have time on your hands again and are posting here again, let me ask you directly: why did you not report the alleged theft of 50+ BTC (which is a serious crime) to the Police?

My insistence on not publishing your address can be seen here. Are you suggesting I do not have it? I have tried to protect you from vigilantism but I will never protect you from going to jail you low-life criminal serial scammer Dean Nolan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.msg52919784#msg52919784

Quote from: JollyGood on October 29, 2019, 06:42:12 PM

Quote from: RHavar on October 29, 2019, 04:56:28 PM

I think the saddest part of this whole thing is that Dean who can't even be bothered to update the betking.io page with a little note of how he took their money, and how to contact him etc. It's kind of like his final fuck-you to anyone who trusted him.

That is extremely disgraceful conduct on his part but that is him down to the core. Everybody knows betking had almost zero traffic so there is no way he would put up a notice for registered users informing them of the alleged hack.

Quote from: RHavar on October 29, 2019, 04:16:35 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on October 29, 2019, 12:34:24 PM

Why do you need to "track him down"?

If there is a case against him the police will do everything themselves. Serial scammer Dean Nolan does not need to be tracked down for any reason at all except if a criminal case for fraud and theft fails, in that case a civil case against him would be the route.

Investors should stop believing him about getting their funds back and should get together to report him to the UK Police because he is a compulsive liar.

The problem is you can't prosecute someone for criminal actions, only the state can. And as Dean has calculated, the chance of prosecution is going to be pretty low. While reporting the crime is a good first step, in the past with similar situations absolutely nothing has come of it.

On the other hand, a civil case is something you can actually do yourself and pretty much guaranteed to win. The burden of proof is much lower, and there's no way Dean's going to waste his scammed funds on a lawyer, he'll just pay out that/those particular people and save himself the trouble. So the only real issue is just to start a civil case, you need to serve him. I'm not sure about UK law, but generally you need to physically serve the documents to the person. Hence "tracking down" the person to serve them.

(So while it's a great idea, also be very very careful about pre-paying someone online to do it. You don't want to get scammed again...)

My point is that before any civil action starts it is important to tell the Police because if there is a case to answer they will do everything and victims would not pay anything financially to prosecute. They will arrest and charge him (which is a pre-requisite) then the Court will pass judgement (guilty or not guilty) if he does not enter in to a plea. In the event of a Court case the judgement will include a criminal conviction (probable jail time) and him having all his assets seized to be sold off in order to try to reimburse all victims. If enough funds are raised to cover all victims then great, if victims do not get back all their investment then that would be the end, sadly. If there is clear evidence he is hiding his crypto in places which cannot be recovered because the convicted person is not co-operating then the Judge could add an extra order of judgement can be made which could add extra months or years added to the jail sentence.

Furthermore, if several months or years down the line the convict has assets or funds in his name or are suspected to be laundered but are in the name of someone else (bank account, property, car etc) then those could be seized at any time to help repay outstanding debt of the judgement. So transferring assets in to the name of other people will not help him.

The Proceed of Crime Act 2002 (UK Law) will ensure that if a criminal prosecution ever takes place serial scammer Dean Nolan will never ever sleep easy even after getting jail time and even after being released from prison after completing jail time because the criminal will always be liable to repay the full amount stated in the judgement.

If however after he is reported to the Police and after they investigate betking and serial scammer Dean Nolan they decide to not prosecute, only then should civil action be taken. All we all know victims will have to pay a lawyer in civil action. There is no need to track down serial scammer Dean Nolan to serve documents on him. When a lawyer decides to take the case on, they will apply to the Court to sue the thief and when the Court allows for it to happen an address is needed to serve him personally. The law firm will have a dedicated employee who serves documents. As for the address, there is no need for anybody to "search" or "track down". Several people already know how to obtain his current address legally.

I would be happy to provide his actual current address (sorry cannot say anything more than that right now) to the lawyer of any group willing taking civil action but there are conditions, for example there MUST be a report to the Police and they must be given time to investigate. The current address for serial scammer Dean Nolan will NOT be given to any victim of this hideous theft because I would not want it being made public on the count that there could be serious argument that maybe personal harm could come to him if a victim is seeking revenge outside the legal route.

Please do not get me wrong, I strongly despise serial scammer Dean Nolan because of the thefts and scams and frauds he conducted related to betking along with the condescending manner he treated users in this forum and for the utter contempt he showed to those interested in the issue - but I would never want to read any reports of vigilantism regarding this matter.

Before a civil Court case begins lawyers usually write to the defendant stating Court papers will be served if he does not settle the case which will be filed in 7, 14, 21 or 28 days. At that stage if serial scammer Dean Nolan has any part of his cerebral cortex is still functioning he would jump at the chance to settle without paying very expensive legal fees. If a civil case is to begin I will provide the UK lawyer (that has been instructed to represent them) with the current address of serial scammer Dean Nolan so the documents can be filed at the Court. In that process, the victims taking serial scammer Dean Nolan to Court will all receive copies before the case is filed for them to sign the document and consent. It is at that stage the victims will know his address but I would still advise and request to refrain from any form of vigilantism or illegal activity and allow the Court to follow due process. Having said that I cannot see serial scammer Dean Nolan being taken to Court in a civil prosecution because if he will be arrested and interviewed by the UK Police Cyber Crimes Unit he will probably will not be let off the hook. All it needs is a minimum of one victim to step forward to get process started.

To all victims of betking and serial scammer Dean Nolan, please allow the Court to take this matter forward in a criminal prosecution. A condition of judgement will include assets being seized so victims can get some or all of their investment back and will see him get jail time. A criminal prosecution allows victims to sit back and allow the Police and the Courts to deal with serial scammer Dean Nolan and that needs to be exhausted before anything related to a civil Court case should be discussed.

I would be happy to donate financially to pay for lawyers fees to start civil action but victims should now accept they have been duped by serial scammer Dean Nolan and he is buying time. They should start a plan of action to report him to the Police. I will personally help in this matter, I need just one victim to come forward and say they want him prosecuted that is all I need to get the ball rolling but so far it seems they are willing to give him time to repay them.