Quote from: nutildah on November 18, 2019, 11:01:18 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 18, 2019, 10:20:25 AM

You have no evidence.

Then what are Pompeo and Giuliani talking about here if the subpoenas don't exist?

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Quote from: TECSHARE on November 18, 2019, 10:20:25 AM

You have the word and perceptions of 3rd parties independent of the matter of fact of the existence of the subpoenas.

These particular 3rd parties are not "independent of the matter..." -- they are the recipients of the subpoenas you claim don't exist acknowledging receipt of said subpoenas.

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 18, 2019, 10:20:25 AM

Their words and perceptions are not evidence of their existence any more than the pictures of Bigfoot I showed you earlier. You keep smoking that rock if that is all you got. Until then I will be waiting for you to produce the subpoenas.

I know you're just trying to wear me down here by being stubborn in your ignorance, trying to disguise it as some sort of logically-principled high ground. At the end of the day, which it is well past for you, you're still wrong regardless of your inability to digest evidence that suggests your belief is wrong.

The rest of the world has already moved on from the issue. The subpoenas were served, some complied with them, some did not. Some of the subpoenaed individuals have already given testimony, and copies of their actual subpoena documents have been publicly released. Yet here you are still, white knuckling this one rock of ignorance in a sea of truth, completely encased in the fear of having to admit you were wrong, unable to move on.

Trump has been all but impeached at this point, but because you can't see a copy of two particular subpoena documents, they must not be real, despite the individuals receiving said subpoenas having acknowledged their existence.

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actual picture of TECSHARE claiming yet another victory from his logically-principled high ground

What they were talking about has no bearing on the existence of the subpoenas. They are independent of the existence of the subpoenas. They don't declare subpoenas real as if by magic. Subpoenas are a legal document backed by force of penalty or imprisonment which have specific requirements to be valid enforceable legal documents. I don't need to wear you down. It is a fact you can not match my persistence and stubbornness, and your proclamations of correctitude are equally as weak. The subpoenas directed at the executive branch were always the subject of debate. Trump isn't going anywhere if the law has anything to say about it. The actual law that is, not this Soviet gulag type inquisition you are so fond of.

Also this: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/huge-after-removing-ukrainian-prosecutor-shokin-obamas-state-department-plotted-with-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-in-white-house-then-pushed-steele-dossier-to-fbi/