I don't know if this is aimed at me in any way
Nah.. I have been watching this since I was one of the first ones to alert about this IRS shit in the first place, when the dox happened, and have seen a lot of otherwise good users defend Vod and attack OG in this situation..
Though I really don't understand why you think this..
Og on the other hand is a filthy liar
Vod being a liar is without question though, right here is all you need to see that as clear as day..
In reference to this statement by theymos, on the topic of Vod doxing OG and reporting him to the IRS..
I was disgusted by the reckless and vicious doxing in this case, where:
- The evidence was very thin.
- Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
- The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
- It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.
It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. (<""fine users") Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.
Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.
For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.
- The evidence was very thin.
- Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
- The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
- It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.
It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. (<""fine users") Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.
Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.
For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.
Which is very obviously addressing the behavoir of Vod himself, NOT OGNasty, as Vod's negative trust rating falsely implies..
That is a lie, by Vod, in a trust rating at that, and is still there to this day!!
How the fuck is that OK with anyone?
"which is a sure sign that OGNasty is untrustworthy" theymos was talking about Vod, not OGNasty..
Will any of you even try to tell Vod to atleast fix his blatantly untrue negative trust rating?
Also I have some doubts about breaking down doors for tax audit
In this situation they would want his computers un-tampered with, no destruction of evidence, so I could totally see them barging in to grab whatever evidence they want.. They would also know their are very large amounts of value at stake here, giving them all the more incentive to snatch it live..
Remember what they did to DPR? They even busted him in a way where they made sure his laptop didn't get shut so it would encrypt..
Here's my take on this. I pay my taxes. Those who don't pay are assholes because guess what - they're not reimbursing me personally for the shit they use
Here is my take on this..
- It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all
I agree with theymos on this subject..
you are a big fish. You are "set for life" according to you
Vod reaffirming the fact that OGNasty is a high value target for thieves, as well as a government..