Quote from: BADecker on November 23, 2019, 12:52:55 AM

Quote from: darkangel11 on November 23, 2019, 12:36:15 AM

Quote from: BADecker on November 23, 2019, 12:22:48 AM

God is the one who produces proof. The universe is the proof of His existence. If you won't believe the universe proof, you wouldn't believe a selfie or ATM card and PIN.

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It works only if you believe that the universe was made by your god.
It all depends on the definition of a god.

Some facts to consider, even if we assume the universe was made by a god.

It was a 13 billion years ago and that being ceased to exist.
The universe was made by this being , but then evolved by itself, which doesn't make you his intentional creation. He created matter and billions of years later some part of this matter made your neanderthal ancestor. In such case should you really be praying to a god that probably doesn't even know he made you and doesn't care. Just like you don't care what bacteria will grow on the shit you flushed yesterday.

The strongest a person can do against believing that the universe was made by God, is to believe that he doesn't know how it was made.

Machine universe proves a maker. Combining complexity, cause-and-effect, and entropy, proves the maker was intelligent like a God would have to be. The order in the universe, and the great size of it proves that the maker was at least acting as ONE.

There is no proof for a multi-billion year old universe. Fun story, though.

There is no proof for evolution in any way we can design it. Fun story, though.

Check this out for the proof that there is no evolution - https://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2019/11/9-scientific-facts-prove-theory-of.html.

Check this out for the proof that there is no Big Bang - http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/sci-ev/sci_vs_ev_2.htm.

I know. These articles are a bit extensive, and might be difficult for a false religion believer like you to absorb in one sitting. But you should be able to see from them, that there is at least a great big chunk of doubt about the fact of evolution and BB. What this means is that you have a evolution/BB religion going for yourself until you factually answer the points presented by the articles.

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Not really:

https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.1207

https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/a-mathematical-proof-that-the-universe-could-have-formed-spontaneously-from-nothing-ed7ed0f304a3