Quote from: AdolfinWolf on November 29, 2019, 03:19:44 PM

Quote from: dwrrwewerwrw on November 29, 2019, 12:55:19 AM

Thank you for your answer.

I need a pro with authority because I need my evidence to have authority.

Yes If i remember correctly:
1. 175 btc from wallet A to exchange
2. some other small and big transactions followed from wallet A to various.
3. the complete contents from wallet A where then send to wallet B.
4. wallet A unfortunately was deleted and as a result I need to show evidence that the transaction of 175 btc to exchange is likely done by me and not by the other party(scammer)

So my request again: please give me a list of companies who can give me the evidence I am looking for. als I need to add that myself I am somewhat not really experienced in blockchain analysis and this is another reason that I need someone who knows what he doing.

I thank the community a lot for the answers.

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3. the complete contents from wallet A where then send to wallet B.

I'm not sure exactly WHY, or what you need to prove, considering you have access to wallet B (where your funds are currently stored?)
~~Or, are we talking about the 175BTC that got stuck in an account / hacked, and that you now need to prove YOU actually sent, and not the opposing part, (the ones who supposedly accessed your account?)~~

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The only reputable blockchain analysis firm i know is https://chainanalysis.com - but i don't think they offer such services for individuals, or at least, they don't anymore. You could contact them and see if they're willing to help you out somehow. (175BTC) is a large amount.

I think these two posts are very conflicting:
Did the actions in the post below happen almost simulteanously; meaning;
you sent 175 BTC to exchange X (from WALLET A) => then the change went to wallet B => wallet B sent that to exchange X,Y.

Or- was it like this. Wallet A 175BTC => Exchange X. Exchange X 275BTC => Wallet B.
If an accurate description of the timeline is more like the first, see [1]

Quote from: dwrrwewerwrw on November 28, 2019, 09:43:16 PM

Wallet A sent 175 BTC to an address at an exchange
Wallet A then sent the remainder of the coins from Wallet A to Wallet B
Wallet B then sent 275 BTC to an address at an exchange.

I am in court proceeding and I need to show evidence that the change addresses of the 175 BTC (which were sent to that exchange) funded Wallet B.

Proof of this is simply provided by looking at the blockchain. (as HCP stated.)

Quote from: dwrrwewerwrw on November 29, 2019, 12:55:19 AM

Yes If i remember correctly:
1. 175 btc from wallet A to exchange
2. some other small and big transactions followed from wallet A to various.
3. the complete contents from wallet A where then send to wallet B.
4. wallet A unfortunately was deleted and as a result I need to show evidence that the transaction of 175 btc to exchange is likely done by me and not by the other party(scammer)

Okay; so let me get this right: (you already have your funds under your control;)? but; someone is suing you saying that these funds were from wallet A, and belonged to them, instead of you.
You- don't have access to wallet A, because it got deleted?

Do you perhaps have access from any previous adress that the 175BTC travelled through? I imagine the trail didn't start at wallet adress A- you must've bought them from somewhere. Another exchange?

[1]But;; if the case does not involve wallet B (You state: you need to prove you own the 175BTC that were coming from wallet A?) can't you just sign a message from wallet B, which has send 275BTC to (an exchange Huh

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coming from wallet A?

This wouldn't prove you own wallet A, but it'd make it a lot more likely. I think it's the closest you'll be able to prove? Unless- i'm understanding this wrong, and they're accusing you of theft of the contents of wallet A (which were stored on the exchange) which you then withdrawed from the exchange and sent to wallet B?

Quote from: HCP on November 28, 2019, 10:46:18 PM

Not sure why you would need a "pro" to show that? Unless there were a number of transactions inbetween "175->Exchange" and "A to B"? Huh

Why not? I think there'd be a much better chance of getting a jury/judge to understand such things when you hire someone from a company such as Chainanalysis, as opposed to representing yourself.

1. it is impossible for me to proof that I owned the 175 BTC at this moment. But If I can show the court that the coins in Wallet B are derived from Wallet A and Wallet A sent the 175 coins to the exchange then i might convince the court. The scammer can not show any evidence at all. so I will be the one with at least some evidence. My lawyer tells me that it can be of help.

2. thank you for the tip https://chainanalysis.com Any more companies or professional individuals who can help me? it is for the court in hong Kong. So likely an affidavit has to be made which supports my case based on evidence found.

3. your question for more details. my lawyer prohibited to post to much information publicly. so I will keep it very summarized.
A. Wallet A had a lot of coins.
B. I send from Wallet A out several transactions of which I do not exactly remember the order.
C. at one point in time I sent out 175 BTC to exchange X of my agent.
D. I then sent out from wallet A some BTC(amount unknown) to a few addresses.
E. I then emptied my wallet A and sent all BTC from wallet A to Wallet B
F. I then sent from wallet B to "exchange X" 275 BTC

I know that it should be possible to show that the the coins from wallet B came from wallet A who sent the 175 BTC to "exchange X". If can correlate this, then I have some evidence to show to the court that these coins were correlated to me and not to the scammer. I am the one who is suing.

for any further details, I do not want to share them publicly yet as i am not a lawyer and I do not know the consequences of what i write. but any people who can help me please message me. if you have a company or a professional in this field and can make an affadavit for the court then you can message me.