Quote from: Gumbi on November 29, 2019, 06:12:21 PM

Quote from: unwashed on November 29, 2019, 05:48:06 PM

Quote from: Gumbi on November 28, 2019, 02:52:12 PM

Quote from: unwashed on November 27, 2019, 05:28:49 PM

Gumbi, I have to ask you a question which is very troublesome to me. You have claimed over and over again to never go by MA commentary and only the reversals. That statement is very disturbing since the reason MA set up 3 services, Investor, trader and Active trader( Pro version) for the different way people approach investing, sort of, what suits your needs. So here's where my jaw hit the floor, the investor level gives nothing but commentary, no reversals, not arrays and no energy, even in the computer generated report there is no reversals and arrays on monthly levels. So if what you are saying is correct subscribing to the investor level you just get to hear MA OPINION and is a waste of money. Just to be clear I've given my opinion on Socrates many, many pages ago and have been investing/trading since 1998. Very active at first to swing trading and now buy and hold with a very close eye out so the investor level was fine for me at this point. I found it useless and no longer subscribe but making that statement and claiming the pro version is the only viable choice at $150 a month is the very least disturbing and MA not being straight forward.

I remember the summary analysis being like what you described with very little information but that has changed.

I uploaded a current copper futures summary analysis, see link below. Commentary on reversals are included in this report and turning points(array)
https://imgur.com/a/GrhGH6D

It took me awhile to actually absorb you and Alex rebuttal since that's how long it took for my disbelief to ware off. Did you actually read that report you posted? If you did you are gonna tell me with a straight face that those are reversal numbers, arrays and energy in that report. You and Alex also claim that, that commentary( which you so vividly claim we shouldn't go by) constitutes sell signals with no point of reference or when they so called were generated. To tell me, as a long term investor I don't need those numbers is absolutely an ignorant trader/investor statement. As for energy, as long as TA has been developed, energy, ie Volume ALWAYS proceeds price by days, weeks, month and years. To tell me as an long term investor, I don't need that is at least, you have no trading/investor experience or you're lying.

Never said anything about energy but commentary on reversals are included in the summary analysis and turning points(array)

"we have not elected any bullish reversals from the last low established during the third quarter 2019. "
https://imgur.com/a/GrhGH6D

that commentary( which you so vividly claim we shouldn't go by) constitutes sell signals with no point of reference or when they so called were generated

"the last reversal to be elected on the weekly level was a bullish the week of November the 18th"
https://imgur.com/aLhZoy0

There is the proof that it does in fact tell you when the last bullish/bearish reversal was elected and it is updated every single day. it is a summary analysis your complaint is you don't get all the reversals which of course is the case you need to pay for the detailed analysis for all those levels.

its called SUMMARY ANALYSIS for a reason

Again, those aren't reversals, they're support and resistance which MA has separated many many times.The fact you are calling those numbers reversals is revealing. From what I see is that the people who actually have trading/investor experience clearly see the flaws in this system, which are many. Thank god I didn't listen to MA for the Gold 2015 bottom and came out ahead.