Quote from: acroman08 on December 07, 2019, 09:37:21 AM

Quote from: deisik on December 03, 2019, 02:11:26 PM

This thought has been nagging me since I first saw the pic below (taken from here):

The image on the left features a uniform distribution (which many erroneously come to think of as random), while the points on the right image are allegedly distributed randomly (read, it is a random distribution). But if we think about it, we may come to the idea that random is not truly random at a higher level. Really, if you hit some random outcome, you could in fact expect more of such outcomes in close vicinity of that first outcome as the image above clearly reveals. So how truly random is what universally considered random?

I'm starting the thread in the Gambling discussion section because this domain (i.e. gambling) is where the idea of randomness and whether random is truly random have most applications and implications. Yeah, you thought it right, for gambling and our success at it

you are overthinking it. reading the meaning of random on a dictionary will already give you the answer to what is considered random. but in your case, you are looking for another meaning
(or not or was just intrigued) or other reason why random isn't random and that is mostly associated with supernatural(GOD) that has planned everything and what people consider random
isn't actually random but was planned.

I totally agree. Random is not in the dictionary of the CREATOR of the universe and everything. That word is for those whose knowledge are limited.
There is definitely something responsible for falling chaff to be scattered randomly on the ground after being thrown in the air. If you can know, understand and control those things which cause the scattering or randomness, you could prevent the so called randomness from occurring or make the chaff land on the ground exactly how you want.