Quote from: BenTuras on January 31, 2014, 10:40:57 PM

Quote from: BenTuras on January 30, 2014, 08:43:31 AM

How can the books be balanced if it's so clear that some of the participants never got their refund for the share price/jupiter purchase price difference ?

I ask this again, and now more specific to one participant (it's me):
These are my transactions on the last sheet, that horrid mess on Ledger Jan 20/14:

Code:

1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr -3.49282052 https://blockchain.info/tx/9074bdc9df9a46ea7f5d296885f66847e0964c92dd4ab4fa3da14eb54dbf91ec
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr -10.6937631 https://blockchain.info/tx/ef13b0e1aae1d1fd8a6773a9f222ac5ae1d4122c839976d3dd8a434b1e350c5d
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr -3.49282052 https://blockchain.info/tx/29b0b50d92b6bc240a62cccc804f0c40c08a235b27d1677bc5d8240b34ca19c5
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr -0.01070447 https://blockchain.info/tx/2b43e9a81196fda1ccbbdae258a519c1dde535a86d3f03a2f45ca6bd68f1958d
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr -10.47846154 https://blockchain.info/tx/a218e3583f0571377ef29fded24d47147c6820c6040ec1f07b8c2dd91e96f6d5
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr -3.49282051 https://blockchain.info/tx/2aa34458daf0928789629d174424a8dd18e937550e0f49b18b958faeecf8f40e
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr -1.78133844 https://blockchain.info/tx/32279ab5df9fd2b327500949fd0b5bcadda47d6f36cbf3283dbb11519f506436
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr -3.49282052 https://blockchain.info/tx/4d3ea5ba035605af59e2c2c57089a5f0b1f674e58306345b34d515d8b24ff247
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 4.54066667 GB1: 0.98 * 85 * 15/17 / 45000 compensation * (2780) shares
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 2.67098039 GB1: 0.98 * 50 BTC mined * 15/17 / 45000 mined * (2780) shares
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 24.44974359 0.98 * 700 BTC mined split between 78000 shares. Payment for (2780) shares
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 4.57559487 As of 12/29/2013: 0.98 * 131 BTC mined split between 78000 shares. Payment for (2780) shares
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr 0.6985641 As of 01/20/2014: 0.98 * 20 BTC mined split between 78000 shares. Payment for (2780) shares
1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr Sum 0

There is no prorated share price adjustment transaction. Many other participants do have one.

Now have a look at the tab Updated Balance Sheet in the excel sheet KNC Balance sheet. Search my name, Turas and go to column O, prorated. I see an amount of 2.43256 BTC, being the compensation you calculated for me.
If I calculate the compensation, I get this: share price I paid(2.25) -/- the Cost per share(2.159223) * number of shares(25): 25 * (2.25-2.159223) = 2.2694. The compensation you calculated and the one I just specified differ.
1. Can you explain the difference ?
2. Can you show me the transaction in which you refund me the compensation you calculated ?
Thanks.

So basically, it looks like your address was changed as a member of this GB at some point or another. You old one had the amount credited in teh system, but wasn't paid out because the change occurred before the first payout.

It looks like the address in the spreadsheet is this: 19ZdYEyjVCWnGPSqQyinrQXTedCjfAsV8e
Spreadsheet I'm referring to: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtH6ASvoAExHdHRmNnY1Qm9xTWM1aHhyU09sdVRsNFE&usp=drive_web#gid=6
But in the ledger is this: 1Ji6RWCLiBDK4mJx5szy8XBiSV3h9feRfr
Ledger I'm referring to: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtH6ASvoAExHdF9IcFh3QmQ2dEt4Zk5qT3lRUDFDTVE&usp=drive_web#gid=33

I fixed this and it will go out during the next dividend payment.

Quote from: BenTuras on February 10, 2014, 07:23:31 AM

Quote from: MilkyLep on February 10, 2014, 07:11:57 AM

@Ben and dutu, did you ever receive further response to your requests/questions?

None outside the forum messages, which only answer part of the questions.
My biggest question is the missing refunds for the jupiter purchase price versus share purchase price difference, which is over 2.2BTC for me for example. Soniq has ignored my questions about this missing refunds. I think everyone should check if they deserve a refund and got it or not.

I agree. EVERYONE, particularly those who have changed their addresses at some point, should definitely be reviewing their own accounts in the ledger and make sure the payouts have been correct. With that information, it's generally easy to lookup if something was missing, especially where payment addresses have changed. There shouldn't be many of these situations. It appears the change initiated with Ben's addresses was bad timing.