Quote from: eddie13 on December 08, 2019, 09:50:25 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 08, 2019, 09:08:24 PM

You are anticipating something that I would like to know, eddie13? I may have heard something about VOD calling the IRS about OGNasty

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 07, 2019, 04:33:06 PM

So what about the auditing part?

I think you could get caught up by reading my posts in this thread starting here for a couple pages or so..

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 08, 2019, 09:08:24 PM

I am a bit more interested in the extent to which posts might have been deleted in terms of OGNasty's own back and forth communications, which seems to be what Twitchy asserted to have happened within a short period of Twitchy's attempted investigation into some of the possible factual matters. In that regard, I had thought that there should be way back machines or something like that that would establish if Twitch's assertion about OGNasty engaging in shredding would be true.. and then furthermore, a way to see the contents of the shredding attempts without having to rely upon any forum administrator's possible abilities to access such contents.

Am I naive to believe that there are way back machines that would capture the contents of forum post shredding attempts. There are guys (and perhaps a gal or two) who are way the hell better at using those kinds of interwebs tools than me... to the extent such tools might exist.

Same here..
I am soooo ready to see some damning evidence against OG after all of this half baked, circumstantial, and speculative attacking of him basically across the entire forum..

Some of the best of the best are here constantly trying to dig at whatever they can find and keep coming up with nothing much, while still insisting he is such a horrible scammer and causing ridiculous amounts of drama..

At this point I really just want to finally be convinced that he is indeed a piece of shit so I can quit caring about all of this, but nothing good yet..

Maybe they got em this time, and if they do, I want to see it..

I did not really want to get into the VOD drama unless there is some significant reason that I need to do so. I am not going to rule out that I may want to look further into the matter, but there is only so much time in the day, and I was just curious about the possible significance of purported deleted posts that Twitchy had brought up regarding OGNasty, and if there is not really much if any significance, then maybe this whole assertion that OGNasty is going to jail is overblown. So, yeah, I have seen some of the arguments against OGNasty, and surely the trent shavers testimony would only be one aspect, but there would need to be some kind of corroboration, whether evidence of bitcoin addresses or even members complaining that they were not paid while OGNasty seemed to imply that there were no complaints. There should always be some complaints, but then a question might be whether any of the complaints add up to clear and convincing evidence against OGNasty in terms of whether he engaged in fraudulent behavior or breach of fiduciary behavior or some other means of running off with the funds, and that is what seems to be asserted here.

By the way, I personally doubt that there has to be either direct evidence or even evidence of legal wrong doing in order to drag a person's reputation through the mud regarding conduct that might end up being morally repugnant rather than illegal, so in that sense, the evidence still seems to be a bit ambiguous from my perspective about OGNasty - but I am NOT even saying that I have seen all of the evidence. Sure, there were some problematic aspects of how he seemed to have handled the forum airdrops, which was kind of what drew me into this seemingly related discussion in the first place, and even with that, I see topics (talking about forum funds and the other pass through entity allegations of this thread) overlapping, and I only have so much time to think about these kinds of OGNasty is a bad guy matters, and sometimes factual matters from different cases could show a pattern of behavior, even if each one of the situations might not stand completely on its own as a violation (like fraud, or breach of fiduciary duty or conversion or whatever), too.