Quote from: RapTarX on December 11, 2019, 01:26:19 AM

@1miau
safari88 has been excluded from the list for not fulfilling the rules of the giveaway; 5 earned merits, which I guess can't prevent cheating. Wouldn't it be better if we had him in the list as well.

Yeah, he didn't meet the 5 earned Merit criteria but I'm always open for discussions to avoid unfair rules. He doesn't seem like an abuser so I'll add a poll if we should include him or not.

Quote from: RapTarX on December 11, 2019, 01:26:19 AM

Either way, you can't prevent cheating through requiring 5 earned merit.

It won't prevent cheating completely but exclude ~99% of farmed / bought / hacked accounts. We had a time before 1 Merit was required for Jr. Member and for my impression most shitposters shifted to the strategie to farm dozens of those Jr. Members before the new rule was introduced. In addition, there are still masses of untagged Newbies used for bumping services et al. and I don't want to get into trouble when such people get to know about this giveaway. Fixed rules avoid most problems.

Poll added: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205895.0 (Poll will run 7 days until December 18, 2019, 11:59:59 PM)

Quote from: SFR10 on December 11, 2019, 02:44:29 AM

Quote from: 1miau on December 09, 2019, 11:33:06 PM

I'm also a little bit disappointed about the low participation, I did the same sort of giveaway in the German section and had a few more users willing to join (the list is a little bit misleading, users were allowed to choose 2 numbers)

Correct me if I'm wrong ^{[I do not understand the language]}, but I think "no merits requirements" on the other thread might've been the main reason instead:

Quote from: 1miau on November 23, 2019, 10:39:15 PM

- Um Schummeleien einzugrenzen, muss euer Account signifikant aktiv gewesen sein, ich reserviere mir das Recht, neue oder verdächtige Accounts ohne Begründung abzulehnen.

Quote from: Google translate

- To limit cheating, your account must have been significantly active, I reserve the right to reject new or suspicious accounts without justification.

Yes, for my German version, I had a different rule for that criteria but finally only 1 or 2 users had a lower Merit count than 5 earned Merit.

Quote from: SFR10 on December 11, 2019, 02:44:29 AM

Perhaps you should reconsider that rule ^{[merit requirements]} for your next giveaway ^{[if there will be any]} and only allow users up to member rank to join in.

Of course, I'm always considering adjustments to accept as many users as possible. It's quite difficult to find a good solution for the users and to prevent cheating. In our local board cheating isn't an issue, we have rarely few translation spammers but as they don't understand German, they don't enter my giveaway and I reviewed possible abusers manually. Tongue

I wasn't sure if that approach would work also for international giveaways and didn't want to take a risk, so I decided to set a criteria of at least 5 earned Merit.
5 earned Merit is still low, similar giveaways have mostly 10 Merit:

Quote from: El duderino_ on September 30, 2019, 11:05:33 PM

-to participate you must HAVE 10 MERIT and at least 50 ACTIVITY

(Don't know if only earned Merit or not)

Quote from: Lakai01 on October 02, 2019, 03:59:31 AM

- 1 Account pro Person, der Account muss mindestens 10 Merits verdient haben. Habt ihr die Merits nicht, dann könnt ihr alternativ auch gerne 0,002 BTC in den Pool beisteuern!

(German version of Q4 prediction: 1 account per user, you need to have at least 10 earned Merit. If you don't have 10 earned Merit, you can participate if you donate at least 0,002 BTC to the prize pool)

But your suggestion "at least Member or above" could also be a fair solution.

Quote from: SFR10 on December 11, 2019, 02:44:29 AM

Perhaps you should reconsider that rule ^{[merit requirements]} for your next giveaway ^{[if there will be any]} and only allow users up to member rank to join in.

I hope so. Wink