Quote from: eddie13 on December 11, 2019, 05:04:15 AM

I'm not about to go look up the "margin of error" to see exactly how much wrong each poll was against what they claim is close enough in horseshoes and hand grenades..

Okay, that's fine. Then just say that from the start instead of insinuating the polls were wrong because they weren't.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 11, 2019, 05:04:15 AM

I look at charts.. One of my only skills in crypto is looking at charts, lol..
If you look at any of the charts very carefully you will see that Trump is on the bottom, look closely now..

But it wasn't magic. It was through 50k votes across 3 states.

538 projected Trump had a roughly a 30 percent chance of winning - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ So it's not magic by any means that Trump came out of that election on top.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 11, 2019, 05:04:15 AM

I assure you I'm not dying on a 0.1BTC hill, lol..
I'm just having fun here talking shit..
If Trump looses, boo hoo, I was wrong.. It's not a big deal..
And I'll admit I was wrong, unlike 90% of people on the internet..

That's not what I meant by dying on a hill. I mean you are willing to look over basic math to look over the reality that Trump's election chances are not looking good and that any other Republican would be up by 10 points with this economy. This is from someone that wants him to win. Trump is banking on the fact that Democrats shoot themselves in the foot which 9 times out of 10 they will because they're clinically insane with their far left policies.

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 11, 2019, 05:05:37 AM

Polls are by default and inherently a model attempting to project real human sentiment. Neither polls nor models are by any means "factual" data but merely estimations. There is no such thing as a 100% factual poll, which is why scientifically speaking polls are near the bottom of the hierarchy of standards of evidence as an inherently flawed data collection methodology.

Factual data meaning the average of the polling data for the 2016 Presidential data was able to accurately predict the final election result for a confidence interval within the margin of error. I'm not saying that polls is a fact or represent the exact sentiment of a population. Of course polls are estimates.

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 11, 2019, 05:05:37 AM

Eddie13 just has two eyes to see and enough functional neurons to realize the dems are far too busy burying themselves to win the election in 2020. The media will do its best to try to muddy the waters to cover up for this and keep people unsure as this is always the strategy based on the reality people will often vote for the candidate they think will win as no one wants to be on the "losing" side. As a result this kabuki act will continue until concession is made even if the Democrat front runner takes a giant steaming dump in their pants on the final debate stage.

Functional neurons you say? Roll Eyes

On topic though, I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying here. The media was bias in the 2016 election and this won't change. Flashback to when Hillary Clinton asserted that Trump wouldn't accept the results of the 2016 election as then the democratic party proceeded to blame Russia for the last 3 years for the cause of Trump's win indicating that Trump is an illegitimate President. The media was complicit in this false narrative from the start and did not drop it even after the Mueller report cleared any accusations of collusion.

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 11, 2019, 05:05:37 AM

The actual silent majority is just waiting for voting day longingly so they can tell the lunatic postmodernist Marxists who disenfranchised them to go fuck themselves. That is the real deciding factor here that dems are blinded to in their frothing spasms directed at Trump. They are too busy pointing at him to wipe the foam from the corners of their mouths.

I have said this before, Trump is waiting for democrats to shoot themselves in the foot like they did in 2016 as Hillary Clinton ran one of the most disastrous campaigns in modern political history. This doesn't mean he isn't down right now.