Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 11, 2019, 04:02:29 PM

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TL;DR

[I haven't bothered to actually look in to any of this but I am willing to form an opinion and share it publicly anyway. Victims might not have known they were robbed. Who needs victims anyway? We can still use this as an opportunity to allow certain people here to pursue personal vendettas. After all what is important is that we pass judgement on people even if there is no harmed party seeking redress.]

Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 11, 2019, 08:31:48 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 11, 2019, 08:21:02 AM

Quote from: nutildah on December 11, 2019, 06:15:30 AM

Anybody who can understand English knows what he meant. Let's look at it again:

Quote from: OgNasty on April 03, 2014, 10:35:23 PM

Is there anyone who thought Patrick Harnett & Pirate were doing honest dealings? I certainly hope not.

He uses the word "thought", as in "thought at the time." Don't know how you could possibly confuse this, but I'm sure you'll find a way.

What part of any of this changes the fact that there are no victims seeking redress

No part.

Literally nobody is alleging that victims are coming forward.

Just alleging that he lied to past investors and stole their money knowing they would assume someone else stole it.

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 11, 2019, 08:21:02 AM

and this is purely driven by clear long term motives to target OGNasty rather than to seek any kind of restorative justice?

It's driven by facts. Court records, block chain transactions and forum archives. I understand you don't consider these things 'proof' but if you change your mind I encourage you to check them out by going back a few pages and reading up. It's all there.

Literally no one is alleging you are alleging victims are coming forward. That is a cute little semantic trick though to make it superficially seem like I was accusing you of making that claim rather than accusing you of pursuing a personal vendetta for your own self serving purposes. All of your claims rely heavily on speculation, assumptions, and perfect hindsight. There are no victims seeking redress, meaning you are here to target OGNasty, not to serve any sort of justice.

Quote from: sbogovac on December 11, 2019, 08:45:56 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 11, 2019, 08:21:02 AM

[...] all you are concerned with is the perception of control that attempting to use the state to fight your petty interpersonal battles gives you. You really honestly are a pathetic excuse for a human being and it is far past time you are shunned from this community for your endless power tripping psychotic abusive behavior.[...]

Do you tell OgNasty - regarding this thread - that too? Basically a case of "what goes around, comes around" isn't it...?

And time to stop has long passed (in both threads). Even theymos asked nicely:

Quote from: theymos

[...] All three of TMAN, Vod, and OgNasty are forum veterans with good trade histories, and I would tend to trust all three of them (to varying degrees).

This drama is highly counterproductive. Nobody has a real trade complaint AFAICT, so the underlying facts hardly matter. [...] I challenge all of you to just knock it off. If you can't work together, then ignore each other, even if you're being prodded.

But by now I - personally - (and I suspect a lot of other users too) cannot take either "side" too seriously any more... too bad.

I did not. Feel free to quote if you think I am wrong. I don't support your false equivalence. Vod has a long history of perusing his personal vendettas using every forum rule, community, and even the state to attack people who dare speak critically of him. OGNasty does not. They are no where near the same, so your "what goes around, comes around." colloquialism is meaningless in this context.

Quote from: nutildah on December 11, 2019, 09:50:52 AM

Nobody is talking about the "victims," aka willing Ponzi participants, because nobody cares about that aspect. Its just interesting information that was recently brought to light. Don't know why you're getting all bent out of shape over it.

I see you are borrowing TwitchySeal's semantic deceits as well. None of this information is new. This isn't about seeking redress for any harmed party. This is about targeting a specific user because it serves you and your friends personally. I am "getting all bent out of shape over it" because I am not a fan of little men trying to make themselves feel big by rallying mobs and using the state as a tool to punish people who are critical of them. That's all this is. You can postulate about the law like Vod all you like, everyone sees what this is even if they aren't as vocal about it as me.