Quote from: sbogovac on December 12, 2019, 03:33:01 PM

It's obvious you are on OgNasty's side. That's your prerogative.

I'm just pointing out they are both prolonging "petty interpersonal battles" that are harmful to this community either way.

Now we can discuss the extent to which one is more harmful than the other, but I (and - again - I suspect more people around here) am (are) not up for that. As I already said:

Quote from: sbogovac on December 11, 2019, 08:45:56 AM

[...] by now I - personally - (and I suspect a lot of other users too) cannot take either "side" too seriously any more... too bad.

Just leaving this out here - again:

Quote from: theymos

[...] All three of TMAN, Vod, and OgNasty are forum veterans with good trade histories, and I would tend to trust all three of them (to varying degrees).

This drama is highly counterproductive. Nobody has a real trade complaint AFAICT, so the underlying facts hardly matter. [...] I challenge all of you to just knock it off. If you can't work together, then ignore each other, even if you're being prodded.

Again, this is a totally false equivalence as I already explained. You can keep trying real hard to make it sound like they share equal fault here, but that is absolute horse shit. This is Vods MO 100%. Target people abusing whatever systems of power he can, the slide the topic with so much bullshit and bickering people don't want to even look at it any more, then they throw their hands up and call it a draw. He does this EVERY TIME he is challenged on his abusive behavior. Its easy to poo poo and say just ignore him when you aren't the one being targeted. After all it costs you nothing to dismiss attacks on others now doesn't it?

Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 12, 2019, 03:54:15 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 12, 2019, 03:14:29 PM

This is exactly what I am talking about. A discrepancy in the numbers does not equal theft.

If you can actually disprove something specific I said, please do. Your 'A discrepancy in the numbers does not equal theft' defense is a true statement, but it doesn't directly address anything. Sometimes a discrepancy absolutely does prove theft. And sometimes, like in this case, it's just one piece of the big picture.

I'm going to keep editing out and ignoring all the bullshit assumptions and personal attacks from now on, btw.

So I am to prove a negative now? That's not how it works captain confirmation bias. You are making the claim, you have the burden of proof. It is just one piece of the big picture, and the rest of the pieces you drew in with crayon from your imagination and stomp your feet and demand the Easter bunny you drew is real because rabbits exist.