The reader should read this post and note there will be NO DEBUNKING OF THE CENTRAL POINTS there is no IRREFUTABLE PROOF of what they are claiming took place ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE. It is all speculation the critical evidence is the "word" of a convicted "scammer".
You should really go back and read the thread man.
The court document where pirate said he paid Og back isn't crucial evidence. It's entirely possible pirate was lying. The crucial evidence can be found in the forum archives and block chain.
Nothing else you said is directly related to whether or not Og scammed pass-through 'investors'. I could be the biggest scammer piece of shit in the world and it wouldn't change the facts.
I hadn't made any conclusions until yesterday. If you'd have read the thread you would've known that I was open about the fact that I could be wrong.
Right now (as of yesterday) there is enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Og stole BTC144 and I don't need Pirates statement about paying out OgNasty in full to prove it. (There is evidence that he took more, but it's not strong enough (yet).)
We have pirates ledger for every transaction.
We have ogs thread archived.
We have both Pirates and OgNastys wallets indexed on wallet explorer.
We have the block chain.
Og was receiving weekly interest payments from Pirate, and making monthly payments to his pass through investors.
The last interest payment Og sent to his investors was on August 2, 2012.
On August 6 Og received an interested payment of BTC66.8
On August 13 Og received an interested payment of BTC39.2
On August 17 He received a withdraw for BTC38
On Sept 2 he paid out the insurance he had been collecting to 4 investors. BTC9.92, BTC4.59, BTC22.95 and BTC27.54
We know that was the insurance because Og posted on the same day 'reserves have been paid, pirate has defaulted', and they total BTC65, the same amount Og listed as the 'current reserves' on August 2.
You'll find transaction ids to all of these in the thread if you decide to bother looking into it.
Bump^^
Reference Material:
OgNastys WalletExplorer Transactions from August 2012OgNasty transactions with pirate from April 2012Pirates Ledger . (ctrl + f 'ognasty')
OgNasty Posts June Payments in pass through threadOgNasty Posts July Payments in pass through threadAugust
If you're taking Ogs character into account, consider what he put in his OP:
"You should [use in Bitcoin Savings & Trust]. pirateat40 is a great asset to the community and if you have the BTC to establish an account, a current member willing to refer you, and are willing to wait for your invite, please do"Now go read the first page and a half of
this thread. And keep in mind the 'insurance' he mentions was
BTC65 total.
If you say YES and you do NOT have conclusive proof. That is defamation and lies according to DT precedent here. So you accept you should be flagged and tagged??
I mean in our case we had conclusive undeniable proof they did not even dispute that but still gave us red for asking a QUESTION. So be very careful. Then again you do not need to be careful as you currently support them.
You are correct though that if you have CONCLUSIVE IRREFUTABLE PROOF your motives do not really matter and can be struck away. Those motives only MATTER if there is NOT CONCLUSIVE PROOF.
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