Quote from: mikehersh2 on December 17, 2019, 08:16:09 PM

This is an issue that has been dividing the country for a while, but more so in recent years.

Unfortunately, with the rise of hyper-bipartisanship, people feel the need to immediately side with the argument that belongs on their side of the political spectrum, even if they do not fully understand the implications of what they are saying. People get so heated and animated over this argument, on both sides, calling people who perform abortions MURDERERS and people on the other side saying that the baby is "part of their body, so it is their choice". It is stupid in my mind to have these arguments, as both sides both present arguments that are logical and make sense. There is nothing to disprove, or show using facts, it is purely subjective, and therefore I do not think we will ever find a peaceful common ground when it comes to abortion.

In my personal opinion, I believe if a woman is pregnant and not prepared to have a child, they should make the decision to get an abortion at the very earliest stages, otherwise, just put the child up for adoption. Of course, there lies the argument of how early is early enough, which again, I do not think we will ever find a middle ground for. There's that infamous clip of Ben Shapiro telling the girl who is claiming to abort a "bundle of cells", to which Ben replies that SHE IS technically just a bundle of cells. While funny, he isn't wrong, and it even made me question my own beliefs a little bit.

To conclude, I think Dave Chappelle presented a funny, yet valid compromise to this issue in one of his recent comedy specials...
He says that when arguing about the issue of abortion, men should stay out of the discussion all together. This is purely a women's issue, it is their body, we should not be the ones to decide what they are and are not allowed to do with the child they are bearing. HOWEVER, in the case where a woman has the ability to choose whether or not she wants to keep the baby, we as men should have the ability to decide whether we want to pay for the child or not!

Arguments over abortion are a waste of time, as you will rarely change anyone's mind about the issue. All it does is create unhealthy debate and drives a wedge between the right and left.

Hate to nitpick here, but the term you're looking for is Hyper Partisanship, the term you used -- hyper bipartisanship would just mean that people work together all the time.

But yes, the loudest on both sides are not the majority on both sides in the least. I think there are a good deal of women who have abortions who hate having to do it, and think that it is horrible because they're ending the life of 'their child' but they know that in this very moment they wouldn't be able to provide for the child like a child should be provided for. And honestly, that's OKAY. I think we'd be a much better place if certain people in certain financial situations knew that they shouldn't be having kids right now because it wouldn't be a healthy and happy life for the parents and the children.

I know I'm probably going to get hate for the above, but I'll go even further for a second. Even if a person does have the resources to provide for the child, but knows that they're not equipped -- personally both mentally and physically, to go through with raising a child, then I don't see anything wrong with aborting that child.

We should continue to push for safe sex, birth control pill usage, and so on instead of fighting about abortions.