Quote from: Vispilio on December 24, 2019, 01:14:35 PM

No matter what one's moral views are, a BTT user should not be penalized for promoting one of the most well known crypto exchanges.

Many crypto exchanges are engaging in unethical practices like fake volume, pump & dump schemes, etc. and yet they are still highly popular because they also manage to fulfill some really valuable duties like market efficiency and liquidity.

As numerous users have already noted, an analogy can be drawn between promoting Chipmixer and Yobit's InvestBox:

you can choose to be a smart investor and use Investbox to make 0.1% on your BTC monthly without ever investing in any of the shit coins, or you may choose to be a gambler and pursue some short term wild gains in the massively inflated shitcoins (similarly Chipmixer service can be used for illicit activites, yet the marketer cannot and should not be held accountable for a potential abuse of a system that has other net benefits to the ecosystem)...

I agree the wording of the signature can be revised to be more honest, but trying to frame hundreds of Cryptotalk / Yobit participants would be one of the most harmful things this forum can do to itself and its user base...

I'm not sure how you can make this comparison. Chipmixer, can be used for illicit purposes yeah. Just like Bitcoin can, and cash can. I'm assuming you're referring to money laundering. However, we all use Bitcoin, and we all use cash. Chipmixer is a anonymity service which could potentially be used for illicit purposes, but so can cash.

Where as InvestBox have a special little fund somewhere, and are guaranteeing users that they will profit. Which is likely true in the early days of these tokens, and Yobit will continue "printing" these tokens off until they have earned enough profit before moving onto the next. What happens to the investors? They lose money, and users stop investing while Yobit push another token. Many users will end up losing money.

Also, we aren't trying to frame anyone. We are advising against changing your signature to InvestBox. If you have previously advertised Cryptotalk I don't care frankly.

Yobit controls when they stop supporting a coin, and Yobit knows that this will hurt many of its investors. Without any moral conviction they will move onto their next token, and promote that with 10% interest, and the whole process starts again. They'll continue supporting it until they believe it'll earn more by promoting a new, and exciting token. Investors will try to jump in early this time because they know the coin will be dropped eventually, and investors will be looking to get rid of the coin until it eventually reaches 1 satoshi, and no one buys it.

Quote from: Blacknavy on December 24, 2019, 01:20:05 PM

Quote from: Welsh on December 24, 2019, 01:03:18 PM

Well, at least this discussion has opened our eyes to the users who have morals, and those that are willing to lie down their morals for gain. The moderators, and Yahoo's opinion matter not, and even theymos' doesn't matter on this particular issue. However, what you decide for yourself does matter.

Stop kidding.
What about your morality?
Yoshit or mixers, what is the difference?
I know many scammers who scammed people by using Bitcoin mixers in our country.
Bitcoin mixers and Yoshit, both are part of the Bitcoin/Crypto ecosystem.

You know many scammers that have scammed using a Bitcoin mixer? Give me some examples? Chipmixer allows users to mix their coins for privacy, and nothing more. If users are using the service to money launder that isn't the fault of Chipmixer or any other mixer for that matter or any other currency. Cash, has been known to be used for money laundering yet we don't all stop using cash on a daily basis.

Chipmixer promise no one that they will be earning interest, and will get money from a special fund. Chipmixer simply allows its users to have privacy. How is a service that allows privacy the same as one that is encouraging early investors to make money, knowing that they will make the decision to stop supporting a coin, move on to the next, and leave their investors getting hurt. They are going to be making the active decision to move onto the next token to earn more money.