Quote from: TECSHARE on December 25, 2019, 07:18:34 PM

I would advise johhnyUA to remove these ratings and make his grievances via public discussion. While I disagree with KTChampion's use of the trust system, I find the types who take it upon themselves to be forum police most often are unwilling to change their behavior. The only effective method of combating this is public discussion of the damages it causes, not by using the trust system to fight out these battles.

Despite some of your ideas is close to me (for example this post in politics and society about guns and trust) i can't perform your advise. Let me tell you why

Also this will be answer for this post:

Quote from: suchmoon on December 25, 2019, 07:57:45 PM

While I disagree with KTChampions quite often, I don't think he deserves red trust. The key part of red trust is "high risk". None of the the things mentioned in johhnyUA's feedback represent high risk. They do represent a significant difference in opinions, which should not be basis for red trust.

There is not "difference in opinions". Difference in opinion is when you with your friend can't come to consensus what to eat: burgers or pizza. Or when two people decide which is better - communism or capitalism.

When someone lying and manipulating, blames someone in "protecting scammers" without any proof, you can't consider it as "difference in opinion".

Lying in most cultures (except meybe some african and pacific indians) is forbidden. If you lied and were catched on it, mark "liar" will be with you for all your life. In some times, mark would be with you, and your tongue - not (it would be torn out of your mouth).

Even today, in many european and some tates in USA you can be called in court for slander. And it could end for you sometimes in jail. Why so? It's easy to answer: because with false slander ("he is rapist, he is murder, he is thief!) you left someone under a threat. Under threat of imprisonment, under the threat of reputation loss.
So, if in real life you must bear some consequences for your false slander, why it shouldn't be here?

Also, there three main points why feedback is still correct and will not remove that.

1 First: This person keep lying

(and will keep doing that forever, i don't know any liar who stopped to lie by himself)

2. Second:
He did not apologize before me, chimk, other users whom he accused to be a "corrupted" and "protectors of scammer"
here is an example of adequate apologize:

Quote from: Zuzma

After reading the opinions of different users, I came to the conclusion that my allegations of merit abuse of distribution are not fair.
Therefore, I apologize to those whom I offended.
and close this topic

3. Third: It's very often that someone tagged troll for lying. Example:

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owlcatz 2019-12-06 keeps spreading lies and hatred. Piece of shit user. Avoid lol.

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mindrust 2019-12-04 This guy is on some illegal hard drugs. Crackhead.

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yogg 2019-04-27 Delusional troll ; spreading lies and harassing staff to enforce the rules he finds more suited for the forum.

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1miau 2019-04-14 Reference Tried to ruin the reputation of forum members - failed badly. However, I would not trust a single word of this user.

From this user trust

And as a final touch to the portrait of this person, is the fact that he is real bitcoin hater.
And it's not forbidden to tag someone because he helps to shill Bitcoin SV (as KTC did with his shitty topic "Creator of BTC about BTC" which ended with signature "Craig Wright").

For example, feedbacks from gmaxwell - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=11425

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gmaxwell 2019-06-16 Reference Promoting the fraudulent claim that scammer Craig Wright created bitcoin and pumping wright's token. This person is either a shill or an idiot, and in either case unsafe to trade with.

Chimk said about that, of course:

Quote from: chimk on May 29, 2019, 11:08:02 PM

Чтo этo зa дepьмo? Teмa - "Coздaтeль биткoинa o BTC." Bнизy пoдпиcь Crag Wright.
http://archive.md/p93MD

Bы вoбщe в кypce, чтo тaкoe cпocoбнo дeзopиeнтиpoвaть нeoпытныx людeй и ввecти в зaблyждeниe и пpoизoйдёт этo c вaшeй пoдaчи? я дoлгo paзмycoливaть нe бyдy..

Of course, this topic can disorientate newbies, like "Wow, so Craig Wright is real Satoshi, so Bitcoin SV is real bitcoin. I will buy some bitcoin SV, to teh Mhoooooooooon!!1"
And this maggot don't fucking care about it, he will just laugh if something like that would happen, because his words - bitcoin scam and we all - sectarians.

Quote from: suchmoon on December 25, 2019, 07:57:45 PM

The key part of red trust is "high risk"

Lying + manipulating + trolling + bitcoin hating = enough reason to think that this user is high risk in monetary terms to any user of Bitcoin forum.

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 25, 2019, 07:18:34 PM

The trust system is supposed to be a way to help warn users of and prevent theft and fraud. These uses are counterproductive to those goals on both sides.

So, my feedback's main purpose - to warn users. I used red paint because of obvious reasons - people will read move attentively (as you know, all important signs on the road or on electric transformer in the city is mostly red or orange paint).

Afterwords:
I like some of you, some of you i don't like and maybe think that you're acting like assholes sometime, but i not tagged KTChampions for one reason. I tagged him for full complex of reasons, which together makes him dangerous to any user of this forum. That's my opinion.

KTChampions == The-One-Above-All if the last one would started to investigate bounty cheaters and scams. (my view)