Quote from: tmfp on December 27, 2019, 09:58:00 AM

Quote from: Vispilio on December 27, 2019, 04:33:50 AM

Quote from: wolwoo on December 27, 2019, 01:15:29 AM

snipsnip

There are some very insightful comments here by Wolwoo, and also some among his other messages, but because he has been pushed into a corner by people who feed on drama in the forum, he almost always finds himself in a defensive position, and discussions take a very argumentative nature, discouraging many other forum members from participating I'm sure...

I don't agree with you that his comments are insightful.
To me they are a facile pseudo analysis, and an example of the mindset responsible for the crap state that crypto in general finds itself. Constructive investment and interest in the sector have evaporated as outsiders have found it to be just another zero sum game, full of liars and parasites.

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I believe when read with a cool mind and unbiased attitude, most people would find great merit in some of the responses here.

The implication being that, if one doesn't find any "great merit" there, therefore it's the readers fault for an incorrect approach.

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No one is contesting that the investbox ad was misleading and had ponzi like components, but in the bigger picture, Yobit's efforts are making considerable contributions to the crypto space, amidst a dark extended bearish period when many participants have already surrendered and gone home to drink tall glasses of milk Wink

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In the bigger picture, imo, the only thing Yobit contributes to considerably is the wealth of its owners.
It does that at the expense of undermining any credibility that crypto may have as an agent of change, by reducing it to some sordid and irrelevant gambling platform.
Sitting up all night chiseling sats out of a rigged shitcoin game doesn't make you a brave wheeler dealing pioneer, just a sad victim of base instincts, which the Yobits of this world are happy to exploit.

This post just about sums up what is going on here right now. There are several common traits between Vispilio and wolwoo, one of them being playing the racist card when they cannot get their own way or when they are challenged. It is futile attempt to stifle debate and misdirect on their part. Vispilio even uses a false basis for psycho-analysis to cite the failure of wolwoo to remain civil as being the fault of other users who force him in to a defensive position, like that is supposed to provide justification as cover for other having to read profanities and pointless highly irrational posts.

I agree with you when you pointed out correctly about certain comments being facile psuedo analysis but the fact that those users that are in cahoots with users such as wolwoo are duplicitous enough to ensure they stay out of contentious posting in threads where other certain senior or highly respected members might be present pushing forward their own alternative view.

As far as investbox is concerned there is nothing more to add than already has been said. The tactics employed by Yobit to push out this trash was probably mostly driven by their desire to steal from users in an underhanded manner rather than openly because one manner of theft would allow them to carry on trading pleading ignorance and blaming lack of due-diligence on part of the investor and the other would simply open them up for legal action and criminal investigation even though they have no information on website in their useless terms/condition/rules page about who owns Yobit and where they are located: https://yobit.net/en/rules/

The "snipsnip" is a perfect way to sum this up.