Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 31, 2019, 03:57:49 AM

Hahahaahahha

I was just trying to explain situations to you (you even asked), and you don't want it, so I'll stop..
Simple..

O.k.. No problem.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

That was not intended to misrepresent your post, it was intended to convey my feelings about our discussion, which was basically going nowhere..

Fair enough, I suppose. But, I already said what my interpretation was.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

It's not like someone is going to read that and believe it is exactly what you wrote.. Notice the ... ... cuts even..

I suppose that the cuts help, but I have been around the block for a decently long period of time, and I always try to represent accurately the statements of others and even give them the benefit of the doubt if I am not sure if I understand their argument, and even sometimes steel manning their arguments in order to attempt to address the stronger of the variations of arguments that can be read from their comments. Just seems to be a better practice to attempt to give fair readings to people, even when disagreeing (maybe even especially when disagreeing), in my experience.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

I don't want to motivate you against your will or force feed you unsolicited advice either..

That's good. I had already mentioned that I frequently will get a bit stubborn if I believe that someone is trying to get me to do something that I did NOT decide to do on my own.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

That was not my intention either..

Fair enough.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

I was just trying to share information with you and you were seeming to take offence to it

I already am familiar with a lot of that information. It is not like I just realized the various points that you made and how you so amazingly tied various points together. You weren't really telling me anything that I did not already know - not that I arrived at the same conclusions as you or even believe that the evidence and the arguments that you were making were persuasive in terms of getting me to consider the evidence in a different light. I am NOT totally closed to ideas of juggling my trust lists around, and I actually have some ideas that I have been considering, but I am not going to necessarily discuss my trust consideration ideas publicly, even though there are some possibilities that I might consult with one or two members before finalizing my changes... NOT necessarily that I would consult, but there are possibilities. There are also possibilities that I might research into my considered changes a bit before I make them, but none of these considerations are really urgent on my mind at the moment, just some possible adjustment to which I had/have been giving some cursory thinking.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

as if I was trying to make you study something you didn't want to, so it's time to stop right?

I don't take assignments very well, just like I was in grade school, I did not take them too well.

I did grow up though, and I found that there were certain ways in which I could receive assignments, but consider them to be ones that I had chosen to get involved in, rather than receiving them from someone else.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

Ouch man..

There is no ouch because you have not really said anything that resonates with me in terms of some kind of thing that I need to do or consider. So, I am not sure how there could be any "ouch." I have enjoyed some of the back and forth today, even though maybe I ended up spending a bit more time on it than I would have preferred, and there is one project that I was NOT able to make very much progress on today. Actually there was another project that interfered, also, with my ability to get to one of my earlier intended projects, so it was NOT just you that caused me a bit of extra time away from that other earlier intended personal project that I had set for myself for earlier today.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 31, 2019, 03:57:49 AM

your summary is truly quite a bit less than genuine, amiNOTrite?

It would be a less than genuine summary 100%, but was not supposed to be a summary..

That is how I read it, but sure, I could see some other possible plausible explanations. They are not very persuasive, but I can appreciate that it is possible that you meant the ellipses to have communicated a message different from the message that I read. Again, that does not seem to be a very plausible theory, but I can see that it is a kind of stretch of a possible intention.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

I like you man.. Don't get all mad..

hahahahaha

If that is how you treat your friends, I would surely hate to see what it would be like to be your enemy. Cheesy

:D

By the way, reminds me of a story.

I had this friend, several years ago, and I was trying to get close to that friend in a kind of dating way.. and I might as well call her a girlfriend that I would have wanted to have. This is well over 20 years ago.

That wannabe girlfriend kept pushing me off onto her younger sister (by a few years). Her sister was a bit annoying and even a bit immature, but also a bit fun in some kind of full of energy kinds of ways, too, especially because we were all kind of young and adventurous... relatively speaking, so I hung out with the younger sister on a frequent basis, and, for a few years, during that time of my life, I got to know other members of that family too.

When I ended up moving away from that area, I had kind of fond memories for the various members of that family including that younger sister who I had spent a lot of time with, and when I got back in touch with the annoying younger sister (nearly 15 years after having moved to a separate place and different activities in my life), I had kind of wondered how we had fallen out of touch, so I was a bit excited when it came time to reunite with the younger annoying sister.

After I spent some back and forth communications and then a few days reuniting with that younger annoying sister, my memory was refreshed regarding why I had fallen out of touch, and why she was so damned annoying.

hahahahahhaha... so yeah, your comment reminded of a situation in which I had a friend (that younger sister) that was quite a burden of a friend, but surely much more tolerable in terms of annoyance 15 years earlier when I had more energy, and it can be really difficult to maintain friendships like that, and even more difficult when older (at least for me).

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

If you don't want to dive deep into this rabbithole that's fine..

Yes. I prefer to stay above ground. Thanks for offering a graceful exit, for me. Wink

Edit: I thought that we were done, and then I see that you added some more. I am not going to go back and edit any of my earlier part to the extent any of that might have changed on your end... but anyhow, I will respond to the rest of your post.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

I mean.. I wrote that huge post for you directly answering a difficult and legitimate question you asked me, dropped a source link in another post for you further answering your question, and you came back with "unsolicited advice" and "putting a burdon on you to study"... Huh

Something like that. Yes.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

You can probably understand that that was a bit frustrating and disheartening in our conversation for me, so I figure it was time to stop, and I'm sorry if I came back in a frustrated way..

Maybe we are all made up, already? Perhaps?

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

I thought this was an honest question from you...

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 30, 2019, 06:50:12 PM

I just looked at your trust, and causes me to wonder if you were just recently motivated into this perspective or you have always felt motivated regarding your perception of restrictions on your freedoms?

So I gave you a quite detailed answer..

Hey, you chose how to respond, whether detailed or otherwise. That's your choice.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

Was it a rhetorical question? Was it merely a jab at me questioning my motives?

Well, we were going back and forth, and it seemed to me that you were kind of heavy on the "Lauda hate", so when I looked at the red trust in your profile from Lauda, I thought that red trust might have had been partially motivating the way that you chose to respond to me in your various earlier posts. You largely seem to have addressed my assertion(s). You did not need to address it... that was up to you.

Quote from: eddie13 on December 31, 2019, 04:18:09 AM

Was I not supposed to answer it?

Up to you. Of course, it was fair game because I raised it, but of course, you could have just ignored what I said, too. Seems weird to reconsider the matter after you have already decided and you have already posted your list or the response that you had considered to be appropriate.