Quote from: nutildah on January 01, 2020, 09:05:23 AM

Your personal opinion on the matter does not change the reality of the situation, which is that Trump has been impeached.

This is true. It's also true that my entire comment was not about impeachment or denying that Trump was impeached but rather about the precedent it sets.

Quote from: nutildah on January 01, 2020, 09:05:23 AM

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/755/text

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Resolved, That Donald John Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors...

The particular "high crimes" were Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress. You can read the whole text if you'd like to understand more.

Of course nobody can force anybody to understand anything that runs against their personal beliefs. That behavior pretty much defines the P&S section of the forum, so I'm not going to attempt to change your mind on the issue.

I'm definitely open minded and can have my mind changed. I've seen the impeachment document -- Again, the point I was making was not about impeachment, but about precedent. to address what you mentioned about high crimes, Trump was not charged with a specific sort of crime. Looking at Bill Clinton, he was charged with perjury, a specific crime. Abuse of power nor obstruction of Congress are not specific crimes, they're broad charges.