Quote from: suchmoon on January 01, 2020, 10:29:44 AM

What a vivid imagination. Fits well with your trust farming and retaliatory bullshit that you want to be left alone at.

After 8 years of being active here, my "trust farming" strategy is certainly taking the slow approach isn't it? Almost like what you describe as "trust farming" is indistinguishable from being an active and trusted member here for many years. What retaliatory bullshit? Please do cite specific examples.

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on January 01, 2020, 05:18:43 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on December 31, 2019, 07:53:13 PM

You are a dope who buys the whipped up horse shit of the DT mob clowns and excluded me when I didn't do anything wrong. Of course that is why I excluded you, because you either have no common sense or you are on your knees in front of them. Either way I don't want you on my list.

I excluded you for one reason and one reason only; I don't like the philosophy you use to build your trust list. I don't think that adding everyone with whom you've had a successful trade is a good strategy. Regardless of our personal differences, if you applied a trust-list philosophy that more closely aligned with mine, you would be on my inclusion list, not exclusions. I leave my personal differences out of the decision.

However, recently I've perceived something else that I find damaging; I think you've been trying to manipulate the system. You've been including people with the hope that they include you. You've been adding folks from specific local boards who have running disagreements with other DT1 members, again in the hope that they add you. Of course there's no way to prove this, but it's my belief that you are operating this way.

This reciprocal/retaliatory approach to the trust system is damaging, and goes against everything you claim to be fighting for.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 01, 2020, 05:37:58 AM

Being a plagiarizing sockpuppeting weasel is still not a good reason to get red trust, let alone sending A FUCKING MERIT. IMO.

By no means was I trying to conflate the two, or suggest that the OP's behavior justified the negative review left by Lauda. I completely disagree with this and a few other reviews recently left by Lauda, so I did what I feel is right; I exclude Lauda from my trust settings shortly after I read the OP of this thread.

As I suspected, you are a naive dope sucking down stories from people with a grudge feeding you fairy tales. I absolutely do not add everyone I have had a successful trade with to my trust list. If I did that my trust list would include several HUNDREDS of people. This accusation is just pure horse shit.

Lets for the sake of argument assume you leave personal differences out of the decision, you aren't very good at gauging that in others and simply take the words of those with long standing vendettas at face value. The accusation you are referring to here is first of all made by Nutilduhh who has a very long standing gripe stemming from their interactions with me not only involving the trust system but from discussions in Politics & Society. This of course all happened the same time this thread occurred where I successfully mediated a dispute between some members of the Turkish section and Timelord2067. At this point some of them included me on their trust list putting me back on default trust triggering a string of accusations and attacks from the same group of people I have been calling out for their behavior for some time.

I am trying to help build a culture of restorative not punitive justice here and the goobers following me around like little harpies for calling them out about their own punitive behavior get dopes like you to join in their chorus and do their bidding because you don't know any better. You are being used as a tool. Are you arguing that I shouldn't be trying to help resolve disputes because some one MIGHT include me after? GOD FORBID people start doing things to reduce disputes and build trust because of it right? I mean that would be horrible! Can you tell me exactly how I can continue to do this and avoid these accusations of manipulation in the future? I would love to hear your solution.

First of all lets address your "beliefs". You are claiming now you know what goes on inside my head and should be judged based on what you IMAGINE my goals are? How could that possibly be damaging to apply this methodology to the community right? I mean why base ratings and exclusions on observable instances of theft, violation of contractual agreements, or violation of applicable laws when you can just IMAGINE some one did something wrong? Just so it is clearly and openly stated, this has never been my goal, and the aspersions cast in the original thread accusing of this are yet again a long string of speculations that could literally be applied to ANY user here who is active using the trust system.

In the case of the Turkish members, I got involved because they are a group OUTSIDE of the current one controlling the default trust, which is I suspect why they were being targeted because they would dilute control the current group at the time had on it. This is also exactly why I was targeted for helping them understand and better approach the situation instead of just getting themselves all excluded and making them irrelevant. My goal was never inclusion, but to break the iron grip the current default trust group has on the system, making it more difficult for them to act with impunity. Of course around here, no good deed goes unpunished. Call in the clowns. Don't forget your red nose DireWolfM14.