Quote from: Blackout on September 20, 2011, 05:41:14 AM

Quote from: vvinogradoff on September 14, 2011, 01:23:39 PM

Quote from: ghgr on September 14, 2011, 11:33:45 AM

In a similar thread in this section I've presented a way to get Bitcoins and paying by Paypal. In order to prevent fraud, a PIN code (free) is sent to the customer's mobile phone. It could be interesting for newbies and people needing immediate bitcoins at a premium.
The thread is at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38873.0 and so far customers are satisfied

I may be wrong here, however there were times I used to sell on ebay through paypal. From what I got there, the main issue with scammers is not about anonymous guys playing with a bunch of stolen CCs. A person may scam you just because there's an opportunity to do so. He/she could be 100% real, with confirmed address, phone and whatever else. Still if there is a safe and painless way to rollback credit card spendings, many of them will surely go this way.
The bottomline as I see it - verifying buyer identity, intention and consciousness could never protect from further chargebacks if there's no legal obsticles for a person to perform it.

This is true as well. There are some legit people who learned about bitcoins and buy and dispute.

The case I am currently in dispute with is only for a single bitcoin that I sold at a premium I think the rate was 11 at the time and i sold for $20 maybe even $25.. to a member with plenty of feedback...

This was before I had the idea of the physical book with a unique code in it.

After a week they charged back, I told e-bay it seemed like he was willfully defrauding and showed all communication and screen grabs of the confirmed transaction and blockchain.

The money popped out.. was held... popped in.. they said they are disputing the bank with my evidence. I was surprised.

We shall see.

See my other thread I am starting for those looking to buy and sell coins with paypal

The reliable buyer seller paypal thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44767.msg534685#msg534685

kind of like the web of trust with out all the insane complication of gpg on #bitcoin-otc which is still loaded with fraudsters
anyway.

- Blackout

How did this turn out?