Quote from: Timelord2o67 on January 10, 2020, 01:26:40 AM

Surely it's high-time for UID "Bitcoin SV" to be nuked.

Not to criticize your recent good form Timelord. However, can you present a clear case for NUKING/banning?

By that I mean. Can you present a clear case for this member being nuked or banned that would stand up to scrutiny in the full context of consistent sensible punishment that should be handed out to those that are the most dangerous on this forum? You can not have SELECTIVE enforcement of NUKE / ban worthy criteria, that is unreasonably biased toward less dangerous behaviors.

I mean to decide on ANY APPROPRIATE punishment we must set some sensible thresholds and ENSURE they are applied equally to ALL MEMBERS (where their deeds are known) or else no punishment is suitable and any punishment given is therefore a strong case for ABUSE and double standards. Therefore it would have to be No Further Action - which I currently support. Until you or anyone else changes my mind.

I am not saying NO. I am saying. If he was to be nuked. Then I would want to see that HE is a more serious threat to the safety of members here than those that have not been nuked or banned.

Scammed for direct financial gain, that have weaseled themselves in to positions of trust.

ALSO flagrantly abused the trust system

Engaged in extortion or blackmail

Presented as true previously conclusively debunked information (trolling) consistently and undeniably.

These types of things. I mean if you can present a clear CASE why he should be nuked or banned and these other types SHOULD NOT be nuked or banned. Then I can give a sensible answer.

OIEIO as usual is talking SHIT whilst trying to sound reasonable. He mentions "detailing" but clearly because he is retarded and we understand that, we have decided he must have meant "derailing" as that is his current flavor of bullshit and fecal matter he splats everywhere. Whilst running away from having his OWN DERAILING off topic and irrelevant spew he plasters on our threads COMPARED TO our on topic and relevant posts that we challenge him to debunk as on topic and relevant but he keeps running away crying trolling and derailing like a whiny little girl who we enjoy laughing at.

Anyway now we have crushed that fools spurious garbage. We once again ask time lord to present his case for nuking/banning in the full context of behaviors of other members here that this BSV seems to be primarily disgruntled with.

We find BSV to have brought up some important and undeniably CORRECT observable instances from certain DT members pasts (not timelords) that could certainly be the reason so many DT have probably gone for the nuke or ban option.

His main problem seems to be in terms of alleged trust abuse (which at this time matters not since trust system is fucked AND nobody supported his flags) that he chose type 2 flags not the lemons flag. Which is just open season for anything like red tags to some members here.

THIS IS WHY POLLS SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT if you really are interested in the truth and motivation for these kind of matters.

I see only that if he is nuked/banned then a lot of DT should be leaving with him. Unless you can demonstrate by sensible debate that I am incorrect.

Recently timelord has been in good form. Although the red trust ABUSE against CH is clear. You can not (back then) give red trust on the basis of him calling moronbozo a fucking piece of moronic shit. Which of late you yourself have come close to calling mornobozo and recognizing he certainly is a little prick. Although CH has recently told us we should consider including you in DT since he thinks you are not guilty of double standards although he thinks you are trigger happy with all equally WHICH HE LIKES, and that he himself is going to include you and may remove his silly red trust he now agrees in not entirely suitable BUT is MORE suitable than the red you gave him. Clearly being involved with or demonstrating clear signs of about to engage in financially motivated wrong doing is the ONLY reason for negative trust and flags. Anything else devalues the system and is assisting scammers.

I would like to see him present a good case for nuking/banning that will stand up to scrutiny when he takes into consideration the behaviors of all members and their current level of punishment he is pushing for.

To be clear this is not criticism of timelord, quite the contrary a very useful member historically and certainly far more DT material than 99% that are there currently. No small wonder that he is prevented from being on DT currently by those that don't appreciate members they can not force into their double standards scam supporting crew.

I Know some are strictly against BSV or BCASH or anything other than BTC. I too hold BTC and feel this will turn out the correct move, although somewhere on those cold wallets I can also claim these others so no big deal if we are incorrect and swings the other way. However this alone should not be grounds to target and go after those that favor the other camp. You do not want roger ver to have a strong and undeniable point do you that unpopular opinions are censored and deleted without being dismantled in fair debate?? NO we don't because that would discredit what we have all built here together. We want the BEST decentralized trustless solution what ever that may.

As always interested in a REAL DEBATE.