Quote from: suchmoon on January 21, 2020, 12:34:19 PM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 21, 2020, 11:00:28 AM

that's a point of contention for me. if some combination of expressions is more common in general internet usage but less common on bitcointalk in relative terms, anomalies will appear more severe in your data than they should and the likelihood of coincidence increases.

"passphrase" is about as Bitcoin-ish as it gets. The correct spelling has been used by ~7000 users on this forum.

and what does that prove?

Quote from: suchmoon on January 21, 2020, 12:34:19 PM

You asked for numbers, I gave you numbers, you're still refusing to show any numbers of your own, so it's becoming a bit of a one-sided argument.

you're the one making a claim, not me. it's incumbent on you to state what your claim is, to present your evidence, and---since it's not clear what your evidence proves---to qualify it.

i asked you to qualify your numbers. what exactly do they prove? you keep implying they prove that PrimeNumber7 = Quickseller, but that isn't clear.

i'm at a loss for what "numbers" i could provide since i am not making any claim. expecting people to "prove the negative" here is very unreasonable. the burden is on you and nutildah to prove this connection beyond a doubt.

Quote from: nutildah on January 21, 2020, 04:35:31 PM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 21, 2020, 11:00:28 AM

take this extreme example: two red blooded murrrican hicks from north carolina (go panthers!) join an internet forum mostly comprised of brits/euros. these two share several linguistic similarities/phrases and worldviews in common because of their southern hick upbringing. to the rest of the forum, they both stick out like a sore thumb. are they the same person?

I feel like this is a trick question. You said they were "two red blooded murrrican hicks", so obviously they aren't the same person.

that's the point. you apparently can't imagine a plausible situation where PrimeNumber7 and Quickseller aren't the same person. and yet, you can't articulate why they must be the same person.

Quote from: nutildah on January 21, 2020, 04:35:31 PM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 21, 2020, 11:00:28 AM

this is the logic of your claim: "so few people on the forum use these terms that anyone who does use them must be the same person". you see how that's fallacious/circular reasoning, right? it's not self-evident.

Not at all. I'm saying that nobody uses all of those terms except for them.

and from there, you conclude that they must be the same person. if you are not trying to make that claim, i suggest changing the thread title. Roll Eyes

....and it's definitely 100% circular logic.

Quote from: nutildah on January 21, 2020, 04:35:31 PM

How are you deciding what is common versus what is uncommon? Because a big number appears next to the number of Google search results? Thats even less scientific than what me and suchmoon are doing.

for you to say that Quickseller and PrimeNumber7 are the same physical person using linguistic analysis is an extraordinary claim. that means they are the only person in the world who exhibits these (supposedly definitive) linguistic patterns. the existence of 2 forum accounts fitting that criteria doesn't prove that. it merely proves that 2 forum accounts share a number of linguistic similarities.

Quote from: nutildah on January 21, 2020, 04:35:31 PM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 21, 2020, 11:00:28 AM

expressions/idioms are also tricky because you should be capturing all forms, otherwise you're not truly representing their prevalence. eg for "sow discord" you should be including users like:

That's not the phrase used by Quickseller, so why would I care about that? "All forms" aren't relevant, only those used by Quickseller. I feel like you are failing to grasp what I am doing at a fundamental level.

you're literally including idiomatic expressions in your data but excluding correct usage of those expressions where they don't suit your claim. you are just showcasing how this is an exercise in cherry picking.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on January 21, 2020, 07:34:19 PM

For me, posts like these are just as incriminating as any of the evidence presented here. These read exactly like someone who has had a grudge against suchmoon for a long time (i.e. QS), and not at all like a relative newbie.

suchmoon tagged PrimeNumber7 a long time ago as an alt of QS. he's obviously also contributing data to this analysis in an effort to make the link stick.

doesn't that explain the grudge?

Quote from: marlboroza on January 21, 2020, 08:58:44 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 21, 2020, 04:56:12 PM

but it was all but confirmed for me when I noticed both you and QS reporting posts with the exact same phrasing. The odds of that happening between two random people is very rare and obviously not something someone else can mimic.

That can give false positive result, someone ask you for advice and you say "report it to moderator, write this in comments: (insert comment)". So they just c/p that and report post or use very very similar words. It is nothing unusual I guess. How many similarities are you talking about, if it is not secret?

Everything here and in other thread is circumstantial evidence, there is no rock solid proof of connection, even PrimeNumber7 attacking only suchmoon (as o_e_l_e_o pointed) is circumstantial evidence. Having that said, there is probably nothing which will convince me that PM7 and QS are not alt accounts.

this basically sums my thoughts up.

i just feel like people ITT are trying way too hard to claim/imply there is proof of a connection. there just isn't. we all have the same suspicions, but that's not good enough. red tagging based on this seems abusive/retaliatory.