Quote from: nutildah on January 23, 2020, 03:06:50 AM

It seems to me like you're purposefully overlooking the obvious (that PN7 is the same person as QS) in order to play lawyer and cast a shadow of a doubt. That's fine, and I do appreciate dissenting opinions, but as I said in the beginning this isn't a court of law.

of course not. it's a kangaroo court:

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noun: an unofficial court held by a group of people in order to try someone regarded, especially without good evidence, as guilty of a crime or misdemeanor.

i don't give a shit about quickseller. i'm concerned about the next person brought before this kangaroo court and the next one after that. my problem is with this general process of trumping up unproven accusations and encouraging mob justice.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 22, 2020, 09:50:15 PM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 22, 2020, 09:22:49 PM

TECSHARE asserted the accusation against PrimeNumber7 originated with you (and insinuated this thread is part of a personal ongoing effort to smear him). you denied that assertion, but AFAICT the earliest public accusation does appear to come from you. please correct me if i'm wrong.

Why did you omit your own post from the fake quote pyramid?

i didn't misquote or misorder anything, so the characterization as "fake" seems pretty dishonest. my post came before your entire exchange with TECSHARE and had nothing to do it. why would i include it, to confuse people? here is the full quote for context:

Quote from: TECSHARE on January 22, 2020, 06:06:20 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 22, 2020, 01:07:23 PM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 22, 2020, 12:03:51 PM

in fact just to be clear---i don't give a shit about quickseller. what i'm obviously bothered about is this lynch mob culture, and the tendency to throw spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. the OP admitted he lacked proof but wanted to make the accusation anyway, just to see if it would develop into the downfall of PrimeNumber7. and truthfully we all know: you don't need proof if you get the right people on your side. the danger of mob mentality is ever present....

The accusation was floating around for a long time and PN7 got red tagged before this thread even existed. As you can see it didn't change many opinions, which is pretty much what I would have expected. Most people simply don't care but for those that do (e.g. people attacked by Quickseller) it's good to know which users they should avoid dealing with.

The accusation was floating around? Like just in the ether? The beginnings of those accusations couldn't have been you couldn't it and you are simply laundering your own past accusations as if they were just "floating around" as if materializing out of the ether and from no one in particular? The really dumb thing about all of this is, even if you are right, who gives a fuck? Quickseller is a huge pain in the ass and has a history of making false accusations, along with a relatively minor impropriety were the damage was minimal if anything. What exactly are you protecting the community from here? I wouldn't trust Quickseller but I don't consider him a threat. All of this is self serving mobbing over nothing.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 22, 2020, 09:50:15 PM

It originated with you claiming that this thread made the PN7 == QS accusation but that's clearly false.

just......no. why are you trying to project weird false shit onto me?

i suggested here that the first publicly known accusation against PrimeNumber7 was your trust feedback posted in july 2019. i understand now that you are trying to paint that as "not an accusation" but it's what i (and i assume TECSHARE) were referring to. "Likely a well-known scammer evading red trust" is definitely an accusation, and i think it's insulting to everyone's intelligence to act like you weren't talking about quickseller.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 22, 2020, 09:50:15 PM

So why don't you dispense with the pretzels and state exactly what it is you're trying to pin on me. Posting a neutral rating based on a suspicion? Guilty as charged. Anything else?

tbh, i'm really only here at this point because you made some obvious mischaracterizations about things i said/did, so i felt compelled to respond.

but since you asked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219253.msg53678431#msg53678431

at first i dismissed the idea but AFAICT it's true: you were the first to publicly accuse PrimeNumber7, and now you are here perpetuating that accusation. that makes it difficult to dismiss what TECSHARE is saying.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 22, 2020, 11:40:20 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on January 22, 2020, 11:20:21 PM

Yeah the part where you start the accusations, then refer to them later as if some one else started them. You then claim that prior accusations exist, you swear it, except you can't produce them.

I said that public accusations (yes, started by someone else) existed prior to this thread. I did produce examples. Which part of this are you disputing?

that's a blatant straw man. the argument was never about whether public accusations existed prior to this thread (which was created 3 days ago Roll Eyes

). the point of contention was always this:

Quote from: suchmoon on January 22, 2020, 06:17:28 PM

the first public mention of this link didn't come from me or from anyone I may have told about it.

anyway, i need to bow out of this discussion. 100% not worth it. i've not seen so much intellectual dishonesty in one place in a very, very long time. from deflection to fallacy to mischaracterization, etc rinse repeat---it is exhausting. i feel dirty just participating. the reputation board is a cesspool.

keep fighting the good fight, TECSHARE. i honestly don't know how you keep it up around here.

later guys. i hope i didn't fuck up your witch burning. i'll stay out of the next one....