Quote from: ciacio84 on January 24, 2020, 01:13:45 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on January 24, 2020, 01:07:16 PM

Quote from: ciacio84 on January 24, 2020, 12:58:11 PM

Insert the projects you know that are 100% scam ... I start HVN terminal, HBZ (helbiz)

You sounds like butthurt investors of HVN. Gave a proof that it's a 100% scam for a project with a working product and already catering invoice in there website.

Refer here for sold invoice: https://www.soldonhive.com

I'm not hyping HVN nor holding there token. I just saw there effort compared to Populous which their main competitors that the only thing do is to list their token on famous exchange then abandon the project development.

I'm sorry buddy but HVN is a scam that's why .....I followed the project closely, but I didn't invest any money ......
Yes its scam. The dev team selling to invoice buyers their own token for price 1 euro / each token.
Invoice buyers need have 1% payed in HVN token which need buy from dev team for price 1 euro/each.
But the team have 90 000 000 tokens so people invest in ico or token holders never be allow to sell tokens for 1 euro on platform because 90 mill tokens (=euros) as 1% that mean they need sell invoices worth more than
9 000 000 000 euros to start take tokens from exchanges but on exchanges price is 11 satoshi so even after 5 years they can still buy another 90 mill tokens for 0.001$ /each token and sell again on their platform for 1 euro /each token. So people holding HVN are rekt.

They doing that to pull the price on exchange if people buying 1euro in OTC then why the heck traders will trade it on exchange for a lower price. This is what the trader didn't understand. At the end bookmakers is just following the pulse of traders and all HVN holders don't get the point on that part. I agree with you that the team is still holding huge part of the token but the website itself didn't mention that buying OTC is the only option to get HVN. If a invoice seller/buyer is wise enough. They will find a way to minimize there expenses thru buying in exchange.

I really get now why you said it was a scam. Wink