Quote from: suchmoon on January 29, 2020, 04:36:29 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 29, 2020, 04:21:08 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 29, 2020, 02:56:35 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 29, 2020, 02:22:56 PM

I believe the guidelines are for trustworthy people and DefaultTrust. There were never any guidelines for non-DT members (for the old or the new system), you could send as many frivolous ratings as you've wanted.

Ok, then we disagree what is valid for DefaultTrust or not. I don't think red trust for trolling etc is a good use of DefaultTrust privileges.

Nowhere did I say, nor mean to imply the above.. I used this as an example within a set of actions by individuals, with whom others may not want to trade because of said actions.

Quote from: Lauda on January 29, 2020, 12:59:27 PM

Reasons why I or many rational persons wouldn't trade with someone:

Trolling - I wouldn't attempt to trade with a known troll due to non-trade related deceptive behavior.
Dishonesty/hypocrisy - Who would?
General deceptive behavior.
Many, many more..

According to his own statement, all of these are valid use of the ratings.

I disagree that red trust for trolling (from the list above) is a valid use of DT privileges. Neutral - possibly, depending on circumstances.

If that's not what you meant then I don't know why you're bringing it up. Theymos definitely didn't mean that red trust for trolling is a valid use as shown by his other quote posted earlier by o_e_l_e_o.

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Reasons why I or many rational persons wouldn't trade with someone:

As you were solely concerned about trade and not trust, I've listed reasons why I (and others) may not want to trade with someone. Following from this, they are potential bases for ratings, it doesn't mean that I argue that every single one of those is appropriate for DT members. I don't even really agree with the first point (although may have left some in the past), I was just trying to be fair by including it..

Quote from: suchmoon on January 29, 2020, 04:36:29 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 29, 2020, 04:21:08 PM

a singular rating which you disagree

Definitely not a single rating in nullius' case. At least one other was already mentioned in this thread, and that's just for the last two days. There are 3 or 4 other reds that I consider inappropriate so for me that makes the signal-to-noise ratio bad enough for an exclusion.

Fair point, and thus I withdraw that in relation to nullius and you. However, I'm also arguing that it shouldn't be done for singular cases in general, otherwise it will undermine stability and strengthen nepotism and chaos ("comply with every single order or you're out" kind of thing).