Quote from: figmentofmyass on April 06, 2020, 08:28:51 PM

whether taiwan is a member of the WHO wasn't the point. the point is the WHO and all western governments were well aware the pandemic risks in january and did absolutely nothing for 2+ months.

@ tomahawk9 already answered this but probably you would have wanted to see tanks on the street and people who come from abroad thrown in camps..
but at that point, you would have been enraged by the abuse of power of the government and demanded freedom of choice
at which point you would have asked for tougher measures of control and lockdown of the country...
at which point you would accuse trump of trying to stage a coup d'etat with the army and the evil gubbermint

Of course, it's pretty bad for me to judge you like that...I mean...you're not a guy to change your opinion that quickly, right?
Remember this?

Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 30, 2020, 12:12:56 AM

the initial selloff in stock markets felt panicky but we've already seen a solid recovery over the last two days---monday's down gap was completely filled. the markets are reacting positively to news that outside of china, there have been no deaths and very few cases in general. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html

wuhan is completely on lockdown, so hopefully we're already turning the corner on this from a public health angle. while the number of infections in china compares to SARS (which itself subsided quickly), the coronavirus has killed only 1/3 as many people (133). people seem to be blowing the numbers out of proportion based on worst case scenarios.

So, according to you the evil and incompetent gubbermint should have acted on January 14 when EVERYBODY knew how serious that was...
But on January 30...sombody I quoted above said that everything was blown out of proportion.

Quote from: figmentofmyass on April 06, 2020, 09:38:44 AM

western governments in italy, USA, and elsewhere simply ignored the threat for months and fed their populations endless misinformation.

Cough, cough...see above!
Grin

Quote from: figmentofmyass on April 06, 2020, 09:38:44 AM

the USA is projected to have a ~1000x worse death toll in spite of korea's much bigger population density. you want me to blame china for that too?

Quote from: figmentofmyass on April 06, 2020, 09:38:44 AM

south korea and taiwan curbed their outbreaks despite this supposed lack of data. now the USA will have a 1000x worse death toll than south korea. why?

So why promoting stuff that Korea did...
https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-south-koreas-success-in-controlling-disease-is-due-to-its-acceptance-of-surveillance-134068
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/28/tech/korea-coronavirus-tracking-apps/index.html

Phone tracking? Sharing your travel routes with strangers? No privacy?
How many thousands of pages throwing flaming poo at us government would have been written on this forum if they would have done so?

Quote from: figmentofmyass on April 06, 2020, 09:38:44 AM

you are the only one saying we should have blindly trusted china.

Nope, I'm the one blaming china for this.
It took them one month to report it to the WHO while silencing everyone, and then lie for another 20 days.

By the time anyone in the western world heard of it, it was already too late, countries had identified the virus even before the news of it spreading through human contact. In Spain, for example, the first known case of somebody dying because it happened only because they tested some people who have died before the first confirmed infection, post-mortem.
And he returned from Nepal before any case was reported there.

Why would they have acted...after all..let me quote...

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people seem to be blowing the numbers out of proportion