Quote from: nullius on February 02, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

Now, why has nobody else seen this as identity theft? Perhaps that is because the term is usually applied only to much smaller cases. A mundane, garden-variety identity thief steals an identity to open and drain new credit cards in your name, or to commit a similar crime orders of magnitude smaller than the Faketoshi scam.

Sure I do understand and accept the identity theft angle, and don't get me wrong, since I have little to no sympathy for that fucktwat, craig wright.

I would NOT proclaim that the identity theft angle is any kind of slam dunk, because surely there can be nuances with any framework and any argument that is made about the persona, Satoshi.. and the fact that he really is NOT known. Furthermore, there can be some implied permission to attempt to steal the name and to copy whatever the fuck you like because the whole project is open source, including the name Satoshi Nakamoto...

Craig Wright takes this open source to another level, just like several of the bcash forks or the various crypto projects that try to deceive and/or mislead the public into believing that they are the real bitcoin or they are better than bitcoin, implying or outright asserting various supposed bitcoin deficiencies. Furthermore, they will sometimes go so far as to describe features as if they were bugs.. when they were intentionally made.. for example, bitcoin was designed in a way to be somewhat difficult to change, but several of the scamming fucktwat forks or imitation products try to assert themselves as better because they easily fork or they easily upgrade, and have even marketed themselves as being nimble.

What can be so offensive about CSW is that he describes bitcoin in various ways that are actually quite the opposite of what it is in terms of intending to be regulated by governments and governing and even engages in conduct that is quite the opposite of open source project such as his variety of his patent applications... or even copyrighting the whitepaper... while sucking off the open source nature of bitcoin.

I guess that my point is that identify theft serves as just one angle to consider what is going on with craig as compared to some of the other projects in the space, and sure you framed your identity theft arguments in interesting and even persuasive ways, nullius, there still seems to be something that is off about trying to fit too much or too many arguments into that one framework.. because even satoshi acknowledged that there was not really going to be any way to get rid of the various imitations and snake oils and in some sense leaving some burdens upon members of the public to figure it out... and we know that there are a lot of dumb and gullible people out there and it could take generations to really get bitcoin rolling in a solid way, including the ever present question about what is the meaning of global reserve status... including a likely outcome that there are always going to be some alternative and more inferior ways to spend money or even people who engage in conduct that deceives other people in snake oil salesmen kind of ways..., kind of part of human nature, and we should not aspire to be robots, I would conjecture.

Quote from: nullius on February 02, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

.........emotional and psychological manipulationunavoidably, to such swindlers as Craig Wright. Observe that with no facts on his side, and with no logic on his side, he successfully persuades many people who do not think through facts and logic.

That's for sure. It's like they want to be scammed, even though if you ask any person, they say that they do not want to be scammed. Funny how that works in practice.