Quote from: TwitchySeal on February 03, 2020, 06:16:58 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on February 03, 2020, 05:44:35 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on February 03, 2020, 05:35:46 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on February 03, 2020, 05:19:56 PM

....So congrats to the right and Trump. Keep on attacking Biden as that will ensure Bernie gets the nomination. ....

Well, that's not EXACTLY accurate.

The shutdown of the never-ending-parade this-time-around "Impeachment" does save Biden face, no dragging Hunter in etc. Leaves Biden in the running,doesn't it?

Trump will continue and now Lindsey is saying they're going to do a bunch of stuff. But then again he's been saying that for awhile so who knows why he's saying it now.

I find it hard to believe they (Trump, not Congress) haven't been putting some serious effort into investigating the Bidens and the DNC. It's possible they already have something and are saving it for later. Also possible they have nothing and it goes the way of all the other democrat investigations he got everyone all fired up about that just fizzled out.

They don't need anything. All they need is the appearance of something and that's exactly what this has all been about.

Besides getting paid a stupid amount every month, Hunter is also being accused of getting some huge amount of money. The "proof" however, despite having specifics on all transactions up until that point, has none for the payments that are supposed to have gone to Hunter. But anyone that believes in conspiracies will believe it was a big payment. They want to believe that.. So, they just need the appearance.

There was a variety of things about the Shoken stuff that bothered me for a long time.. Then I finally realized what it was and other things seemed to come together. Why did they think Shoken was corrupt and yet why has there been no "proof". Even just some rough statement. Granted he apparently didn't do anything.. to anyone.. in all his time.. but we'll ignore that.

He made the statement that he was told to use "white gloves" with the Burisma investigation. He stated he took that to mean he needed to be hands off. i.e. "protect" Biden and his son. I finally realized why that seemed off to me. It's because that phrase means the opposite of what he thought it did. He was told by the US guy to actually do a very thorough and competent job. That's what it means. Now maybe in their culture it's something different. Or it's a phrase uncommon to them and because he lives in a society where everyone is corrupt he assumed the Bidens were as well and that he was being told to look the other way. The end results is that he did nothing. So from that, it's stands to reason that the US would then think he was corrupt since he wasn't doing the investigation they had told him to do a thorough job of.

When fired, he says he was told it was because Biden had told the President that they had proof he was corrupt. I suspect it's more that since Shoken had been told to do a thorough job yet did nothing, they assumed he was corrupt. The President may or may not have said that to Shoken but even if he did he could also have simply misinterpreted or, as many do, was casting blame elsewhere so it would not fall on him.

Given that one misunderstanding, I can see how it all could have played out the way it did. Of course maybe there was evidence he was corrupt but I've never heard anything that indicates there is.

Regardless, as it stands it makes for a good way to smear the Bidens. I doubt they really want it looked into as it could end up clearing them and that doesn't suit there purposes right now. Everything is currently nice and murky and perfect for the job they want done.