Quote from: Totscha on February 13, 2020, 09:33:33 AM

Quote from: Vandar on February 13, 2020, 12:58:14 AM

Quote from: Mindin on February 09, 2020, 10:16:43 AM

Quote from: Kassolari on February 04, 2020, 08:34:25 PM

Hey

I am coming back after I sold out at 22 satoshi after we had a fight over graphic design.

Now You fools are at 1 satoshi or 0 and daily volume 3k USD.

After all tell me now that You have made a good decision keeping all the power to overrule community vote on changes we wanted to undergo.

Now this is dust... too bad because once this was a great community but as always idiots ruined it.

Yeah it dropped hard. It's hard to predict the future. Often short term greed and stupidity ruins what would otherwise have been a bright future. LOL!

Sorry dear but the drop for the btcz did not come because of not implementing the graphics redesign that a team had proposed.
The "crypto winter" was a general phenomenon.
At the same time well known cryptos like dgb or cryptos with tons of promotional power like btcp lost more than 90% of their value , in comparison with their peaks.

Anyway , the BitcoinZ Community has evolved in many ways and has got something much more important than a graphic redesign: new dev teams like the btcz.app , a new community funding mechanism, a new roadmap with many sub-projects already under construction and soon a new site and more.

At the same time , the discord members of btcz are more and more while all other crypto projects' channels are being deserted or are disappearing one after the other.

The most critical thing for a Community project like btcz is expanding its Community base organically , not just hitting a good price for pump and dump games.

The expansion of the Community would be impossible with your approach because your msg is full of hate even after so many months.
This was the reason that many key-members of the Community had expressed their negativity then, with this proposal which was more like an offensive take-over and commercialisation of a pure Community project than a normal proposal for BitcoinZ.

Anyway, no reason to go back to this conversation.
The general wave of falling crypto prices (and btcz of course) , doesn't prove that your proposal had been a good one.

Now btcz Community is here stronger than ever , even with an unfairly undervalued digital coin.
A low price doesn't make a hard working volunteering Community to fear.
We have nothing to fear.

Only speculators fear a price drop.

Part of it was the bear market, yes. But the key was the devs not implementing fixes to the counterfeiting vulnerability inherited from ZCash and being delisted from Trade Satoshi as a consequence.

Now there's no market and it's gonna be very hard to get it back. And a coin with no market is a dead coin...

This is a TradeSatoshi's lie.
BitcoinZ needed a little more time for the 2.05 v because the team needed to make a double update implementing VaultZ as well.

The so called "vulnerability" of Zcash has never been really proven and was probably just FUD because some devs from Zcash had been separated from the project and they wished to harm the Zcash project.

Even if the vulnerability was a true story, there are ways to monitor the balance of the coins in the blockhain explorer (especially for a young coin like btcz which has not yet endless transactions) because the exchanges use only T addresses in order to sell any coin , so even in a scenario of exploit , the coins would end to a T address anyway.

However the btcz dev teams and the exchanges have found no evidence that anything like this has ever taken place in the very few months time frame.

Finally , TradeSatoshi was ranked as number4 among the 9 exchanges where btcz is listed in.
EXMO, STEX and Crex24 have way more liquidity and there are 5 more exchanges (Safe, AlphaBtc, Exrates, Cratex , Graviex) , a total of EIGHT exchanges and NO exchange among them had recognised any safety issue at all !

Saying that TradeSatoshi's theoretical (and fake) claim about issues for btcz and delisting , had a special importance , is really RIDICULOUS.

TradeSatoshi is now well known for its practices of grabbing client's coins with many dark practices and it is ranked as a very bad exchange which has many times found poor excuses like a maintenance from a dev team , in order to delist coins and loot their user's coins in the exchange's addresses.

Someone could easily wonder ... "Ok, how the btcz Community decided to join one such bad exchange?"

I completely agree with a question like this, however we should take in mind that Cryptocurrencies are a completely new world and the exchanges are a part of it which is unexplored. When you join a so young business that is running for just a few months or one year you can NEVER predict if it is going to be a trustworthy one (like stex and crex24) or a bad one (like TradeSatoshi or even worst exchanges that were original scam exit businesses like SUBI, MCT+ etc).

This is why we should all be careful following some basic rules like never storing coins at ANY exchange, never let funds for more time than the time needed for trading and always report everything weird that we notice in the social media in order to force their owners to offer trustworthy services.