Quote from: Cnut237 on February 16, 2020, 06:49:58 PM

I really want your friend to set up an account on this forum and join the discussion!

He is not able to join our discussion. I grew up in university, I knew many of those professors, their lifetime is dedicated to publishing articles on science and nature and giving lectures, they don't see the bigger picture, they don't have the motivation to dig into something, like making a quantum miner

Similarly, I highly doubt those experiments since no one can prove they are right or wrong, it just as abstract as Quantatative Easing, more politics instead of real truth seeking. And when you see a lot of complex formula, you know that something is used to let other people shut up if they are not good at high level mathematics (which most of the people are), and even they do, they can not really relate those formulas to physical world in a very strict way

For example, have you seen the card dealer analogy in that BBC documentary? I think it is not very convincing. Based on Einsteins glove theory, the content of the two cards are decided before the dealing, and they are always different(entanglement); and based on copenhagen interpretation, the content of the card only appears when you turn them over

The obvious difference in these two theories lies in: In hidden variable theory, the content of two cards are calculatable and predictable, but we don't know how to calculate. While in copenhagen interpretation, the content of two cards is unknown all the time until you turn them over, no way to know in advance

So, based on this difference, you would easily design a test that turn cards at different time, if they are always the same, then hidden variable theory wins, if they are random, copenhagen interpretation wins.

Unfortunately, once the cards are turned, there is no way to do the test again. So you can not really make an experiment that exploit this obvious difference

However what Bell did is another experiment involving the correlation of different polarization of the lights at different angle. It is very difficult to see the direct relation of his experiment and the above mentioned fundamental differences in hidden variable theory and copenhagen interpretation. Again here politics takes over, complex formulas and experiments seems to be able to shut most of the people's mouth

BTW, I have seen similar kind of goal shifting when I was in university. When the professor could not answer my question in a satisfactional way, they usually say that your way of thinking is too classical, you have not adopted a new mindset of modern physics. But this kind of personal attack does not really help me to get any further. I think the right way is to either admit that there is no sensable explanation on the matter, or explain the thing in a step-by-step, human understandable way. It is worse when you in fact is human but you pretend to be god