Quote from: PassThePopcorn on February 19, 2020, 05:57:34 PM

I mean that link is just a rebrand of vnish. Might as well just download it from the original.

http://vnish.net

You realize that's not vnish website right? Vnish doesn't have a website. Alexander from vnish.net is not him lol. No is vnish.ru. you can reach vnish on telegram @vnish and he can confirm this. He owns vnish.com but doesn't run a website. He rather just have distributors take care of it for him and just work on the firmware. If you like I can list a bunch of partners for you or I can tell you 99% of S17/T17 firmare you see is his. That being said I know of a North American firmware being built and I will make a thread for that when it is out too!

Also for what it's worth asic.to has the lowest fee you will find some other firmware builds will have the 2.8% as well. It's not made to make a ton of money and if your asking what do I get as a distributor very very little. I am just using it as a platform for big clients to test the software and see if they like it. Those interested I help them negotiate the best rate I can get them depending on the size of their mine. There are 2 main distributors myself for the english markets and another gentleman for Russian markets.

Quote from: PassThePopcorn on February 19, 2020, 08:28:42 PM

Last I checked awesomeminer is also a vnish re-brand. At least the S9 version they advertised was.

There aren't that many firmware's out there, at least from looking through a lot of the bigger ones, they are all just a copy or a re-brand. And of course the crappy ones that don't actually do anything posted by newbies/scammers.

**Re-brand - when I say re-brand I mean the developer allows other companies / people to distribute the software as their own including putting another logo in it's place.

My bigger reason to not go with a rebrand is support, the people distributing the software are just distributors. They did not code it and they do not know how it fully operates (they might know how it works), but if you read the docs / knowledge bases you can know just as much as them and more than likely if you ask a question that they don't know the answer to they will just middle-man it to the developer.

Yes there are a few companies that run our firmware and add an extra fee on it to pay for their services along with distributors to distribute in markets outside of ours. Vnish markets to Russian, Ukraine, Kazhstan, Georgia. I market to English markets. Also some people are more than just distributors that might no a big more than what's in the docs/ knowledge bases (that doesn't exists) except for the semi-decent manual for the S9.

Quote from: mikeywith on February 19, 2020, 09:47:32 PM

The dev fees on Vnish website are as follows

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Dev fee 1.6-1.9% only for S9/T9, 2.6- 2.9% for S17/T17

awesomeminer's fees for S9 is 2% or 3% (without consuming awesomeminer license), for S17/T17 the fee is 3%, so that's anywhere from 0.1% to 0.4% more for awesomeminer, if you use awesomeminer to monitor say, 100 miners, then you have to pay 700$ for the software, so one should do the math and see if the difference in fees is worth the license and the features that awesomeminer provide which Vnish doesn't. If it makes no economic sense, one might want to stick to Vnish, I personally use awesomeminer and I count on it big time to manage my gears, so I wouldn't mind paying a little extra, but that is just me, everyone should run the numbers.

All distributors for services can charge whatever they like. The base fee is 2.8% which is why you will get from the firmware on asic.to. I can not speak on what sort of deals or commission they get on their firmware builds but the total fee is a minimum of what asic.to is.

Quote from: PassThePopcorn on February 19, 2020, 10:05:36 PM

It can actually be more than that, it's all negotiation and quantity of miners running the firmware. If you have thousands you get a lower fee, in awesomeminers case the dev fee is 1% and awesomeminer adds 1% for themselves. The 17 series can be different but in awesomeminers case they take a portion so they can develop a management system that works better with that firmware.

Now I have no idea if these features are worth it, they might be worth it to some. I've tried awesomeminer and I actually like it, however at scale it just doesn't make sense. It's a very nice ui and 90+% of the features can be replicated if it's worth your time. In my case it was since the work arounds to get awesomeminer to work the way I wanted it to just weren't there.

That is not how that works. They do not have a 2% fee on their firmware if their fee is a total fee of 3%. As far as making it work any better any mine management software that works with bmminer will work with the firmware. So the arguement that they are developing it for the firmware is a moot point granted they are adding some profile adjustments from their management I heard in their thread.

I mean what awesomeminer does is it just calls the built in api. If you know how to script you can do something similar but if you got the money or are running the firmware anyways and don't mind the increased fee it;s worth it. They make a really nice product and I encourage people to try it. I was a customer of their loooong ago and they product is great!