Quote from: joksim299 on February 21, 2020, 01:13:52 AM

Quote from: BoXXoB on February 18, 2020, 10:55:32 AM

I believe Joksim's claim relies on 3 key points he has been trying to make.

1) CSNO Token has lost value

Okay, the token has lost value, true but he is taking his numbers from sources that aren't reliable. BitDice does not reach high trading volumes and thus any estimation given by Etherscan is likely to be wrong. Secondly as it was stated, BitDice buys tokens back from those who wish to sell them at a relatively good price atleast comparing to the estimations Joksim has been making.

2) The money that was invested has been "wasted" or some of it has disappeared

As my last reply states, much of the assumptions that have been made by people have not been thought through and are simply speculation and the money is still there.

3) BitDice has not been delivering its promises

This is probably the most notable one as it's clear BitDice hasn't yet been able to deliver many of the initial promises that have been made. We have addressed that fact and have also stated that the new website is in the final stage of development. In other words, promises have been delayed a lot which is not something we're hiding. But we're working on delivering on those promises.

Joksim is trying to make a case about how the money that has already been spent has gone into vain which he keeps repeating. One doesn't have to look farther than the quarterly reports to see what the money has been spent on. The expenses haven't been directed at something specific only but on the entire project. I don't understand half of the gimmicks it takes to run a casino let alone something that aims to serve fiat users. I am fairly sure Joksim doesn't understand exactly how complex everything is to set up either.

So to simplify: the money that has been spent has not gone into nothing. It's an ongoing progress and despite seemingly static, it is definitely not.

We've been trying to explain that the promises that have yet to be delivered are going to be delivered despite the long delays.

Now my conclusion about this scam accusation is that its aim is to make BitDice lose its reputation. Question is: what's the gain from this?

1. Purchase them at ICO price or above then it is fine. ( You buy them at -60% of ICO price while you intentionally do not use any moethods to bring wagering/new players on the site)
2. Yes you did waste (see your statement) over 30,000$ per quarter for legal fess to implement fiat while you didn't even open bank account. (Fiat should have been implemented already 2 years ago, you should have informed yourself before promising something in ICO)
3. How it was easy back then for you to LIE investors that you can and know how to implement those features in agreed time frame.

You're just making assumptions about intentions, expenses etc. The delays have already been admitted and are being worked on but it's clearly pointless to argue with you.

I will not be answering your further replies because you're bringing absolutely nothing new to the table.