Quote from: gentlemand on February 25, 2020, 11:01:49 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 25, 2020, 10:40:06 AM

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice?

But that's all he's got. He's would need to start from scratch to put together more skills than simply waiting to unleash one huge punch. Most of his matches were a waiting game until that moment can happen. Since he didn't get started until 20 and is now 34 it would be pretty miraculous for him to be reborn as a fully rounded boxer.

I don't think that's all he's got and I think you're being a bit harsh. Fury was lucky to get up in the first fight and it's a miracle he did. I think the third fight will see a lot more of Wilder and regardless of when Wilder started he's clearly earned his place in the world of boxing. I'd much rather see this fight again than them both fight some bums because that's what will happen unless they can make the AJ fight happen but that will be off the cards soon, both with Wilder taking the rematch and AJ's next fight against Pulev is almost a done deal.

Quote from: gentlemand on February 25, 2020, 11:01:49 AM

If he retains his main trainer then it's clear he's not very interested in changing or learning and the talk of going out on his shield is daffy. I would've had a corner clear out just like Fury.

I've no doubt he'll be sharper next time. That may not make him any better a boxer.

He's already sacked him apparently (which isn't surprising): https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-trainer-mark-breland-sacked-tyson-fury-rematch-jay-deas-a9356326.html

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on February 25, 2020, 11:45:35 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 25, 2020, 03:32:10 AM

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform Cheesy

. After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

The maker of Fury's costume has come out and said the costume wouldn't have made a difference to his performance Grin

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/boxing/51634231

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The designer of Tyson Furys boxing outfits has told BBC Radio 5 Live that Deontay Wilders ring-walk costume wouldnt have impacted the result of the fight.

Melissa Anglesea is the creative director of Lancashire-based Suzi Wong. The company has made Tyson Fury's shorts and robes since the start of his boxing career.

Wilder told US media that Fury didn't actually hurt him, but he lost because his costume was too heavy meaning his legs were "shot" from the beginning of the fight.

Anglesea dismissed Wilders claim and said the costume worn by the American made absolutely no ounce of difference".

Hopefully he won't have any excuses for the next fight.

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on February 25, 2020, 12:31:57 PM

Quote from: Finestream on February 25, 2020, 11:51:25 AM

I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

If he was smart he'll take the Fury fight. He'd be stupid to throw away a chance to get his belt back and fight a fighter like Fury again, because if he doesn't take it now that he won't get another chance as Fury will move onto bigger things. This is the biggest money making fight he can take right now, win or lose, and the only person that has something to lose now is Fury. It would be a huge step back for him if he actually lost as AJ will likely then go for Wilder unless Fury has a rematch clause then here we go again Cheesy

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Quote from: beerlover on February 25, 2020, 04:54:41 PM

Are we sure we are all talking about the same guy? I mean Deontay Wilder literally went 42 matches without a loss, he had only one draw which was a lot of controversy but even if we consider that a loss, he would be 42 wins and 2 losses right now, he only has one loss which just happened in all of his career. Dude is also just 34 years old in a sport where even 40 years old people are fighting today, maybe not in his weight class but it certainly happens, with the advancement of technology and medicine sports players are playing well into their 40's now and he could very well do that as well.

I am not saying he will be a great boxer from now out, he had his best years behind him, but he could very well challenge for a new fight one day, which he might win or lose I don't know.

Yeah, I think people are being very harsh. One loss and they're making it out like he's done. Sure, he got shook in that fight but it can happen to the best of boxers. Nobody expected Fury to almost get KOd in the previous fight and he almost lost that one but one loss or draw doesn't take away from all their other achievements.