Quote from: Thekool1s on March 01, 2020, 02:22:11 AM

TBH this is kinda stretching it... Most online FIAT casino's don't accept clients from developing economies so even if you get their Identity for let's say 100 bucks or so, it will be useless as it won't help you in your verification process.

I can only talk about bookmakers here, since I never registered with a casino-only site and have no experience what is the standard there.

You are right, that some countries are excluded as I wrote yesterday, but from my experience it is more eastern european countries (Poland, Ukraine, Czech Republic etc.). I have just gone through a few bookmakers and checked their T&C for first deposit bonuses and couldn't find poor-ish african/asian countries being excluded. It could still be the case though, since I only used german/english/nigerian IP to check.

The bookmakers are a bit ambivalent themselves with their promotions imo. On the one hand, they want to get as many (losing) customers as possible and otoh they don't want to get abused. And they steered a middle course for that. Apart from the exclusion of certain countries, Skrill/Neteller not qualifying, hard rollover requirements, they also introduced minimum odds to be played to fullfil the rollover requirements. Often times these minimum odds are 2.00+ nowadays (no multis allowed). What does that mean and where is the benefit ? That way they make sure, that even if there are abusers, they are likely to lose their deposit+bonus at their site (and win with the other site, that does not have these minimum odds requirement in place). So you attract "honest" recreational/addicted gamblers and those promotion-hunters mentioned in the example will lose their money with you.

Quote from: Thekool1s on March 01, 2020, 02:22:11 AM

We as a community need to stand together, we need to frown upon these 'crypto' casinos/bookmakers which require users to perform a KYC. Having to go through a KYC verification defeats the very purpose of using Cryptocurrencies in the first place... I dunno why as a community we have kind of submitted ourself to these requirements (...)

Problem is, there is no such thing like a gambling community - or lets say no community big and powerful enough to put some pressure on certain cryptobooks/-casinos. Most people are lonesome wolves when it comes to gambling. They might engage in betting forums or forums like this one, there are Facebook/Whatsapp groups and little private networks, but there is no labor union or things like that.
As mentioned earlier by o_e_l_e_o, there are really very few people, that care a lot about KYC. The majority just wants to gamble a bit and/or feed their addiction. If they have to do KYC for that, so be it. And have a look at Sportsbet, which imo is the frontrunner from the crypto-bookmakers. KYC is not mandatory there, but they might KYC you, if there is something suspicious. 99% will never have to do KYC there. If you are a longterm loser, you don't need to do KYC. You will only get KYC'ed, if you win (big) longterm or because of suspicious activities regarding multi-accounting with their promotions.

Most people are just "happy" with the way it is and/or don't bother.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on March 01, 2020, 09:21:36 AM

Quote from: Thekool1s on March 01, 2020, 02:22:11 AM

I see no reason why would a casino require a KYC, if they had no promotions or Bonuses.

Well, until the government of whatever jurisdiction they are based in decides they want to start coming after their customers and forces them to enact KYC or close/move. (...)

Yes, correct. Most bookmakers/casinos are afraid of being bullied by governments; not only from their own jurisdiction. They either comply or put geo-restrictions for certain countries in place. But most of the time they comply, since with geo-restrictions, they lose their whole customers base of a certain country and by f.e. implementing KYC, they will only lose parts of them.

I wrote a bit about that here:

Quote from: tyKiwanuka on February 07, 2020, 04:20:27 PM

So the first thing that happened some years ago, was, that german customers weren't able to register with quite some bookies anymore. Existing german customers were kicked out, because the bookmaker didn't want to take any legal risks by letting german customers play at their sites.