Quote from: squatz1 on March 04, 2020, 03:33:42 AM

The Bernie Bros are going to be pissed again, and I think that if Biden is the nominee that guarantees a Trump victory. But ya know, I said Bernie wouldn't have risen to this point -- Flying Hellfish corrected me -- but I GUESS I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG? Huh

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The show goes on!

I also said Biden was a dead man walking, Whoa kinda shit the bed on that prediction as well!

Everyone's predictions have changed over the last few months, that's the nature of the game when you try to read the tea leaves. Bernie is wounded and perhaps mortally so! What amazes me is how fast shit hit the fan for Bernie's campaign or conversely how big of a difference the 3-4 days around ST was for Biden. Biden over performed the polls, this wasn't as simple as Amy and Pete's supporters getting on board. Biden picked up the pete and amy vote, all the undecided votes and turned out the burbs. Bernie failed to turn out the young voters in any serious numbers.

No way to spin this Biden had the best possible night he could have hoped for and it was the worst night Bernie could have imagined...

Bernie failed to turn out young voters in any real numbers, his core messaging took a hit last night as that argument is going to ring hollow going forward.

Quote from: theymos on March 04, 2020, 09:02:23 PM

Biden is a terrible, terrible candidate in either the primary or the general. He can barely get a comprehensible sentence out, his record isn't too different from a neocon Republican, his current policies aren't too different from Hillary, etc.

I think the democrats have baked in the Biden "flaws" much in the same way the GOP base has baked in Trump's flaws, it seems like an easy thing for the voters on both sides to do! They have already internally made the bargain that a brain melting creepy gaffe monster is OK if everyone else thinks hes the best shot to beat Trump!

Short of a major medical issue (like a stroke or something), I don't think there is much that Bernie can throw at Biden (or that Biden can say/do) that sticks.

The race isn't over, but Biden undoubtedly took the lead yesterday and is in a great position to have the plurality if not majority of delegates by Milwaukee. The plurality getter should be the nom whether its Biden or Bernie.