Quote from: tvbcof on March 07, 2020, 04:06:56 PM

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Again, the mysterious inability for the U.S. to be able to come up with a test for 'covid-19' is getting more suspicious by the day. Perhaps they are not getting 'false' positives but rather the correct reading. That is to say, perhaps it has already been around the block in the U.S..
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Some people conjecture...

No mystery about the tests. Our government is incompetent and slow. The CDC was not prepared to handle the volume that was required of it and our bureaucracy likes to centralize power so other labs were prohibited from developing their own tests by red tape. As soon as the CDC cried uncle and outsourced the process to the private sector we had labs like the University of Washington immediately performing hundreds and soon thousands of tests a day. Many of the cases diagnosed to date including the one in my local hospital ICU were diagnosed by such labs and are "presumptive positives" because the centralized labs are too overwhelmed to even confirm the findings despite having days to do so. Private sector positives are required to send their positives to state level labs for confirmation.

It is probably best to avoid conjecture. Otherwise things quickly degenerate into a let's blame the group we like least contest. The USA did it. No the Communists did it. No the Jews did it. No it was the Nazi White Supremacist ect. TwitchySeal reaction is probably best. Without hard proof we should proceed as though this were a natural interspecies jump. The fact that it is well within the realm of possibility that this was was an engineered interspecies jump requires investigation at this stage and perhaps suspicion but not accusation.

Quote from: tvbcof on March 07, 2020, 04:06:56 PM

From what I 'know' about the ailment I don't necessarily believe that to be true. Seems mostly like it is (to most people) just another seasonal bug which many don't even know they got, and there are thousands of 'flu deaths' every month. The mortality figures we've seen out of China are not in the numbers that couldn't be swept under the statistics.

That depends on how old you are. The best data we have comes out of China where they have been dealing with this for months.

Looking at tens of thousands of confirmed cases they are reporting a 8% mortality rate in those 70-79 and a nearly 15% mortality rate in those over 80. Yes young people do much better 0.2-0.4% mortality. They are probably missing asymptomatic cases so this is probably an overestimate but if you are old this is serious business

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51540981