Quote from: amishmanish on March 09, 2020, 03:15:41 AM

I myself agree with all of this. (particularly, fool me twice). Yet, if you think you can have a sustainable and stable situation in society by neglecting/ disparaging/ insulting the other side on emotive issues then you are just playing their game. The ring master gleefully watch because it gives credence to their theories of "Insult to majority's pride" by "Leftist intellectuals". You may not be getting this point, or maybe have outgrown it (as you said above), a balance of conservative values and liberal exploration needs to go hand in hand.

Yes, that's what should happen. But time and time again reality stares back at us. There is no leftist pride, there is however a right-ist pride. "We shot Gandhi". "Jute maro taklu ko". "Grab em by the pussy" - these are all the things that are said by right leaning leaders. Moderation is the key to a peaceful society, but the times right now are so far beyond "moderate" situations that the nation needs a shock to get back into shape. These seemingly normal people turned mongrels need to own up to all the shit they have created and it would not happen by ignoring them or by being passive. That's the worst thing you can do.

Quote from: amishmanish on March 09, 2020, 03:15:41 AM

Putting words into my mouth with the argument on "broken moral compass" is typical of the self-righteous grandstanding on display by left-liberals everywhere. (which you may or may not identify as). You only play by the rules of the bigots if you use the same attitude of publicly disparaging things like Saffron/ Cow-worship etc etc. It doesn't serve the purpose you think it serves.(Shaming these people into thinking that the values they hold are ridiculous).

It is ridiculous. Have you ever met a random person from a bhakt rally? I have. My family has been in the legal realm for decades, the ideology, the mentality, the sheer stupidity of these people will astonish you and make you question if they are of even a sane mind.

One random guy when preparing his case through us said this about Indira Gandhi, and Mamata Banerjee.

-They are women. They can never think like us (men). The sincerity with which a man thinks is incomparable to how a woman thinks. Every time there has been a woman leader in power, our country has become shit.

Imagine the same lines in Hindi with a Bihari accent.

Such ridiculous people will not be reeducated overnight. It would take generations. And such people should live in fear of repercussions of fostering such a demented world view. And the only way such people would learn the right thing is if the 'right thing' was a dead fish and they were smacked with the said dead fish.

Quote from: amishmanish on March 09, 2020, 03:15:41 AM

We all have a spectrum of thoughts and can agree/ disagree on a lot of things despite our political/ economic leanings. Yet, use of such language on social media only strengthens the agenda of those who sow divisiveness.

I am not a Gandhian. And I have never been around anywhere with any form of divisive agenda, but the more we let things just slide the worse it would get. I am a stern believer in that.

Quote from: amishmanish on March 09, 2020, 03:15:41 AM

You really didn't need to do all this economic analysis. (A lot of which is your opinion and not facts)...

Oh, I'm not at all diffident about facts buddy. I would urge you to point out which part of my analysis was "opinion"?
If you think these were my opinion and not based on actual studies then you should read papers published by Dr Amartya Lahiri, one of the most critical one being : https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.34.1.55

That shows you the macroeconomics at play. Look at how it affected the poor and the low-income households in this report;
https://www.cafral.org.in/sfControl/content/Speech/8292017101719AMDemon_20170107.pdf

Seriously, people died for that shit. Anyone saying that these are my opinion, please. Slap yourself.

_{For those that don't know, Dr. Lahiri is a Royal Bank Faculty Research Professor, Vancouver School of Economics, University of British Columbia, Canada and has worked with RBI in the past.}

And FFS these were not "reforms" it was never intended to be. Everything Modi has done has benefited the Reliances, the Dish TVs, the IPLs and whatnot at the expense of the PSUs and the common man. It would literally take just a few minutes of your valuable time to research the same. But alas, you prefer to be passive and not question the system.

At best the stated intention of hitting multiple targets of curbing black money, improving digitization, reducing terror funding is an eyewash at the least or completely ill planed at worst. A single policy cannot have multiple targets and be successful at the same time.

The more you let the worms grow, the more rotten things will get.

And when it comes to the question of what next. India (RBI) declared its stance against crypto back in 2014 when it issued the 'cautionary' warning against cryptos and now they lost the case just when the economy needed a massive boost because our GDP has dropped off so far. Why does that not make you question the politics behind the decision?

They've "allowed" us the opportunity to bring in swaths of money into the Indian ecosystem. I think there needs to be ways for us to ensure that one fine day the FMC would not suddenly wake up and decide to ban crypto by calling it a commodity and banning all trade again. How do we stop a future like that from happening? That is the motive behind this thread.